No my only outing I used 200g XTP just because they are cheap. I bought some Lehigh's for it and i like using sabots. If big conicals are your fancy is a slower twist rate better? From reading on here a 1-24 is best? I think Sabotloader said low serial numer 45's have the 1-24.

I thought of whites, but in the .45 cal there 1:20 twist and shoot the really big 460-488 lead well, the knight with it's 1:30 twist is a lot more versatile, and after seeing what some .45 cal knights can do with a 340 gr conical which is motoring down range pretty darn fast lol! just looks like fun!

I really enjoy shooting the conicals. I like the way they load and I like their accuracy.
As a bonus, they make target shooting a lot more affordable.

Cheap is another reason i am going to big lead lol. my understanding of white's is 1:24 in the .50 and 1:20 on the 45. besides that whites are hard to find parts for and knights are not.Knights seem to shoot the big lead real well,the accuracy seems to come from the proper sized bullet and weight for the bore and twist.hell who knows i may even try my hand at casting my own lol..RAy

Reading through posts, i was really impressed with that little .340 gr Lee bullet you cast and shoot out of a knight .45.extremely accurate and SABOTLOADER seems to get excellent accuracy from his GMB barrled rifles with big lead also.i am stoked about it to be honest :biggrin:

The Eilte 45 1-30 is surprisingly versatile

360gr PR Ultimate conical 100 yards


285gr Great Plains 100 yards


6 Hornady180gr XTPs and 100 yards on a rest


Same load 4 shots with no rest

I rest my case lol! Ray

I applaud your move back to conicals. I made the same move myself a while back. While you are at it you might as well go back to straight BP as well.

And yes the Knight's shoot the conical very well. Look for an older MK-85. They will drill the conicals. And look for a musket cap conversion cap. I prefer that ignition to the 209 ignition. And there has never been a better trigger in a production MZ that was better than the trigger in the MK-85.

And one last thing. Don't give up on the 50 caliber. There are just as many good 50 caliber molds available as 45 caliber molds. And the 50's will do very well themselves. Tom.

Tom i have a Knight wolverine in .50 already lol. now i want a .45 to throw big lead with.. did they nake the wolverines in .45 and if so what twist?

They made a 45cal 1-24 MK85 but it is VERY rare. The first Original 45 DISCs were 1-20 but not all. I have an Original 45 SS NIB that is over the correct serial range for 1-20 but the ramrod test comes back as being a 1-20?