60 gr of BH isn't as low as you think. You're so used to max loads.

It's probably equal to 75 gr of real BP. That's a hunting load for many at 75 yds.

He's shooting BH ? 60 is plenty!

BH209 doesn't do as well with sub 80gr loads depending on bullet weight. With a heavier bullet its better than T7 and most other subs but try shooting a 180gr bullet with a 60gr load. I bet T7 or real Swiss bp give you more fps.

As you go up in sabotted bullet weight and powder charge BH209s fps lead gets larger.

Ah ok. I haven't fooled around with BH enough to know that.


FG..Why use it? Pyrodex works good at low loads, and has less recoil.

That's not my understanding from what i have read about BH at all.. the way i read it was it's about the same as 777 until you start using heavier, say 300 gr bullets and above. then you you can expect a FPS gain...either way he can obtain good groups with a 60 gr charge and .250 saboted bullets! Ray

I like shooting some pretty heavy sabot loads and BH209 is much easier to shoot all day and clean later. If you are shooting 300gr bullets in a 50cal then you may really like it if you are looking for good fps. Then you start needing less BH209 compared to T7 to get the same fps. It burns more progressively like a smokeless but not quite a smokeless. No other sub burns like BH209, so there is a learning curve.

Real Swiss though with a conical is hard to beat with just 60-80grs.

Thought about swiss with the wolverine and conicals, just can't get it here, unless i mail ordered it. so pyrodex and conicals it is lol. i found that scope base by the way and it's on the way.. Ray

Sabotloaders 45cal graphs have shown it many times. BH209 doesn't offer much fps advantage until the bullet gets heavier or the charge gets larger (near max+). In some cases T7 actually had a descent lead with light bullets and a light charge.

In a 50cal bullets under 250gr you might get more fps with 60gr of T7 than 60gr of BH209 but both should be pretty close and well into 44mag territory. Cheapshots might even work fine.

Pyro is fine with conicals. Doc White used it all the time and ive seen too many bug hole groups to argue it wont.

U bet, always did a fine job in the ole rene .54 and connies lol!