What kind of groups should I guy expect with a PRB at 25 yrds?

I see the pics of one hole, 5 shot groups. Are those standard or picture worthy?

I'm shooting a 50 cal TC Hawken and usually get 3 or 4 tight but lose one or two from the group.

at 25 they should be standard IMO.

At 25 yds from a bench rest.......same hole.

At 25 yds offhand.......same hole if you're a good shot.

One might expect at 25 yards a large hole. And it does happen when I shoot. But there is always that chance of a flier. And they seem to show up at the worst time.

I agree. One large hole no more than twice the ball size. That's from a bench of course, and with a load tuned to the gun.

From 25 yards off hand? Well, let's not talk about that.

Yeah, I know what you mean! Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, we do get a might shakey in our old age don't we?
I remember back in my younger days a group of about 7 of us would stick the handles of plastic spoons in the corragations of a box and shoot the 'spoon' part' off at 50 yds off hand with our flinters. And at that time we all had T/C Hawkens or Renegades and all shot PRBs. Now I don't want you guys to thing that we hit them every time. But we did hit them more than we missed. And it was definately good practice. Especially with 6 of your buddies watching you shoot and talking to you then ribbing you when you missed. Good times.

I didn't want you to think I was talking about me. I can shoot the same hole from a bench. Offhand? Not really. I'm not a target shooter. I'm a hunter. I'll use sticks, tree, and if nothing is around. I'll go down to my knee.

However, i've watched good target shooters put it in one hole. One hole meaning no paper between shots. Not one hole the size of the ball.

I consider any shot that kills the animal quickly a perfect shot.

Killing paper was never my thing.

muley you're right about any shot that kills cleanly as being a 'perfect shot'. But in order to get there - you do have to shoot paper (even if it isn't your thing). You have to shoot paper to find out the best possible load combination to make that 'perfect shot'. There is always human error involved in shoot any handheld weapon and having your weapon shoot the best load it can will narrow your margin of error. Shooting at random objects may develop your shooting skills, but it does nothing to see what your weapon is capable of.

Hopefully, you're making a general post to everybody, and not directly at me.

I've been hunting for 60 years. I've punched my share of paper to prepare for my hunts.

I just don't punch paper as a sport. I'd fall asleep from boredom.