GM you hit the nail on the head,don't reinvent the wheel,just improve on the design! great looking rifle and accurate to boot... cmon Knight you can do it!:happy0001:

I posted this over on MM in response to a Vision thread so i thought I would carry it over here....

Omega45
First of all you have to remember that i am not a break open fan at all... but, back in June Tom sent me his Vision to try out and also to reduce the LOP.

When I first open the box and removed the gun - I remember my very first thought was... " this not an ordinary inexpensive gun". The weight and feel of the gun made it feel like a real ML. Probably mostly due the GM barrel and breech.

Here is a picture of the gun as I got it.



This particular gun was equipped with the new NFPJ breech plug that Gordy had redesinged for the Vison. I was suppose to be BH compatible and clean in the Vision. The short time that I had it, I would totally agree with that statement. For some reason I did not take a picture of that plug, but it is what started me on my quest to replicate the plugs working design in my DISC rifles. The flame channel was opened to something like 5/32", the flash hole had been opened to 0.030" and was on the end of the plug as far away from the nose of the primer as they could get it.
It had two weaknesses in my mind... the finishing procedure of the the hinge and the trigger. Both were functional and strong but...

The hinge is really built durable - right along the lines of my Browning trap guns. The only problem i found was at times the gun would not lock up correcly not allowing the hammer to hit the firing pin. This was an extremly easy fix and just a matter of Knight getting a little better handle on 'quality control' at that point.

The trigger is a spring trigger without any adjustement, but even at that it was a really nice pulling trigger. I did have a bit of creep and grit in it, but hunting you would never know, after all this is a hunting rifle not a target rifle.

Because of the shotgun shape of the reciever and the LOP it does not really lend itself to the easiest scope mounting to get the proper eye relief... Even then this could be beat by using extended rings and mounting them rear-ward. To solve the problem Tom decided to remove a portion of the stock and decrease the LOP.

Decreasing the LOP - the Knight stock on this gun does have a hollow butt stock but has plenty meat to allow cutting and installation of a new recoil pad.



This is a picture of the breech area after 22 shots shooting a sight in target. You can not call it perfectly clean but it certainly is cleaner than I expected...



And it appears that it is a really good shooting rifle, if this sight in target is any indication....



Even though I am not a break open fan this gun certainly has possibilities... especially because of a normal safety, making the pulling back of a hammer un-necessary, + the fact that there is not an exposed hammer. I have a new Triumph that I rarely use just becuase of the break action and the exposed hammer under the scope.

Omega also posted this picture asking about this part - i have never seen it before in a Vision... I looks like an extractor of some sort but can not figure why?



Found it... it is for extracting a FPJ... I it is hand operated...

thats an extractor for the red plastic jacket model