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Old 05-07-2011, 03:33 AM
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Wolves will not be relisted in the states effected by the federal law passed by congress. Under that law the wolf advocates are prohibited from suing in court.

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Old 05-07-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon
Wolves will not be relisted in the states effected by the federal law passed by congress. Under that law the wolf advocates are prohibited from suing in court.
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In fact, one group has already indicated they will not hesitate to challenge Western Great Lakes delisting in court
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:05 PM
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In fact, one group has already indicated they will not hesitate to challenge Western Great Lakes delisting in court
The law passed by congress has nothing to do with the Western Great Lakes.
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:08 PM
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They need to do something quick in Wisconsin, these things are all over the place. Of course I think a lot of people are doing the 3 S's .... shoot, shovel, and shut up!
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I read a recent article in Wisconsin spent over 250,00 dollars in the last 25 years for wolf damage. That is for killed dogs vet bills, a hound hunter gets an average of 2500 per dog and can be paid up to 10,000. Farm losses are even higher. The wolf is not cheep. and that comes out of DNR money that can go for other needs
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:54 PM
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I read a recent article in Wisconsin spent over 250,00 dollars in the last 25 years for wolf damage. That is for killed dogs vet bills, a hound hunter gets an average of 2500 per dog and can be paid up to 10,000. Farm losses are even higher. The wolf is not cheep. and that comes out of DNR money that can go for other needs
Another case of the feds doing something and the individual states picking up the tab for there idiotic decision making. here in california we have the Condor/ vulture and the Mountain lions protected.they have spent untold amounts on the condor and the lions are over populated and are devouring our deer herds.in the last couple years, lion sightings have went up dramatically near populated areas.. Ray
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the Mountain lions protected.they have spent untold amounts on the condor and the lions are over populated and are devouring our deer herds.in the last couple years, lion sightings have went up dramatically near populated areas..
We can blame CA and the Feds for the condor scam. Mountain lion hunting in CA was banned by voter referendum.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:06 AM
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5/5/2011

BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — The Obama administration on Wednesday announced it is lifting endangered species act protections for 5,500 gray wolves in eight states in the Northern Rockies and Great Lakes.

The move essentially draws the line on the predators' rapid expansion over the last two decades. Public hunts for hundreds of wolves already are planned this fall in Idaho and Montana, and Interior Department officials said Wednesday that the most suitable wolf habitat already is occupied.

Conservationists have hailed the animal's recovery from near extinction last century as a landmark achievement that should be extended to the Pacific Northwest and New England.

But the federal wolf program has stirred a backlash from agriculture and sporting groups angry over wolf attacks on livestock and big game herds.

"To be sure, not everyone will be satisfied with today's announcement," said Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. "Wolves have long been a highly charged issue. These delistings are possible because the species is recovered in these regions. That is a remarkable milestone for an iconic American species."

Western lawmakers attached a rider to the federal budget bill mandating the move for 1,300 wolves in the Northern Rockies. The rider blocked legal challenges and marked the first time Congress has stripped a species of protections. Protections for those wolves are to be lifted effective with a Thursday notice in the Federal Register.

About 4,200 wolves listed as threatened in the western Great Lakes also are slated to lose protections following a public comment period.

A pending petition before the Interior Department seeks to extend the government's wolf recovery plan nationwide. But Noah Greenwald with the Center for Biological Diversity, the sponsor of the petition, said Wednesday's announcement made clear that the government has no such intentions.

"In our view wolf recovery is not done," Greenwald said. "We're disappointed with seeing the Fish and Wildlife Service attempt to get out from under it."

Fish and Wildlife officials said they plan to review the gray wolf's status in New England and the Pacific Northwest but did not foresee another reintroduction effort.

Montana wildlife officials this week proposed a public hunt for up to 220 wolves this fall, out of a population estimated to number at least 566 animals.

Idaho officials have said they want to reduce their state's wolf population to about 500 animals, versus current estimates of more than 700.

In addition to the hunts, officials say wolves that attack livestock will continue to be removed by wildlife agents. More than 1,500 wolves have been killed for livestock attacks since the animals were reintroduced to the Northern Rockies from Canada in the 1990s.

Idaho state Rep. Judy Boyle, who sponsored a bill giving Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter the authority to declare a wolf disaster emergency, said hunting alone won't be enough to reduce the number of wolves to levels in which they aren't a threat to livestock or wildlife.

Under state management, Idaho will continue to ask federal wildlife agents to take out problem packs, including in north-central Idaho's Lolo area, where the state wants to kill dozens of wolves to help restore elk herds that have been hurt by predators and poor habitat, she said.

"They are very, very effective," Boyle said of the Fish Wildlife Service. "In the Lolo, that's what they're going to need to do to reduce the population before those elk start calving in June."

No hunts are planned immediately for small populations of wolves in Oregon, Washington and Utah.

Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin have plans meant to keep the populations at healthy levels while allowing government agents to kill animals that can't be driven away. None would allow hunting or trapping for at least five years, although the states could revise those plans.

Wednesday's announcement leaves the fate of about 340 wolves in Wyoming unresolved. Wyoming was carved out of attempts to restore state control over wolves because of a state law that would allow the animals to be shot on sight in most of the state.

Salazar and his staff have been negotiating for months over the issue with Wyoming Gov. Matt Mead.

Mead said Wednesday that he was hoping for an agreement with the administration to get a bill through Congress lifting protections in his state. The governor suggested legislation that was the only way to prevent lawsuits from environmentalists that could otherwise derail the effort.
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