I was just on barnes site and see you can buy them without sabots now. Good to know because the sabots they come with are to tight for my bone collector and endeaver. Still not cheap, but a great bullet.

http://barnesbullets.myshopify.com/p...without-sabots

If you like Expander MZs, you can get 20 packs of XPBs or 30 packs of TAC-XPs for a tiny bit less. Very similar bullets but most have a cannelure. There are also a couple 458-300gr tipped boattails in 50 packs for about $41 that work at ML velocities called SOCOMs.

Probably need a crushed rib for that T/C rifle.

yea better pricing if the pre-packaged sabots/bullets work with your gun. Need a discounter to carry the bulk Barnes MZ bullets! Anyone know of anyone?

Oh and Barnes has raised the price on the BULK bullets now... now a worse deal...really no deal at all.

With a boattail Barnes like the TMZ try the Harvester Yellow crushed ribbed sabot. With the flat based TEZ try the Harvester black crushed ribbed sabot.