Oh ive been here since i was around 20ish or so. In the 6-7 years ive been here i put up with it so its nothing new. Thats how i got my forum started, it was a place for the powerbelt shooters to hang out without all the trash talk and a place to get help with the powerbelts. Grown a lot in the 2 years its been up.

You just have to go with the flow and dont let it get you down. I took heat for shooting blackhorn209 in a hawken so its basically no matter what i do or shoot, they still trash you LOL.

quality very few stories..PB's literally thousands lol..your not being honest again!

Maybe they're just jealous about the free samples you get,if indeed you do get them, and they're not getting any?

Pluckit
I want you to know that if I make a comment about pushing a powerbelt bullet too hard I am not trying to pick on Jon or anyone else. If you were to look back at Jon's posts you would see that he himself has stated countless times that the 245 grain powerbelt should not be pushed hard. In fact he has said 70 to 80 grains of powder is best with that bullet. Now when he comes on here and tells a newcomer to shoot that bullet with a magnum load that bothered me. I cannot understand his motivation for making a suggestion like that. I have seen in person what that bullet does if overpowered and I think you saw it yourself with that deer you shot at 20 yards and didn't recover. For you to suggest it is somehow wrong to give a newcomer to the sport accurate information is hard for me to understand.

That's what I think it is, jealousy, plain and simple. Breechplug and Builder don't get items to test out and they are just so envious of MD that they have to start something. They use Freedom of Speech to cover their butts while in reality they are just crybabies. I personally sold my Omega and bought an Accura because I believe it is a better gun for my money. Omega was nice but my Accura sure outshoots it any day. I don't use Powerbelts cause I don't like them but I know many guys who use them with great success.
So Breechplug and Builder why don't you both grow up and stop bashing other members of this forum. Contribute with respect or get the h-ll out of here, we don't need your type on here.

the new comer was asking for Accurate loads for his rifle. I gave him a couple.

If you are shooting close distance shots, you dont use a magnum load, you take it one step at a time for the new guys so you do not confuse them. When people want to know if their load is ok, they normally PM me for that info.

Magnum loads with Powerbelts are recommended only if you are shooting out beyond 140 yards. I personally have used them on game around that range with perfect results. It depends on the area i hunt.

But like i said, the new guy asked for accurate loads, i gave it to him. Let him get the load info first and settle down with it and i bet you he will come back asking more questions until he is comfortable enough to go out and shoot. One step at a time, dont flood the person with a ton of stuff all at once.

"Maybe they're just jealous about the free samples you get,if indeed you do get them, and they're not getting any?"

Quite a few here that ride my arse get a good deal of free stuff them self. The only difference is, i dont get paid.

I can guarentee you 100% that is not the case. People are-and have been for years frustrated with people, in this particular case MD who says things that are misleading. I nor anywone else could care less if MD is getting paid 200K a year to push CVA. I just don't want him telling people-especially newcomers to MLing that it's ok to use 150g charge with a light Powerbelt and everything will be fine.

It's the responsibility of ALL OF US on this board to make sure that when people come here to ask for suggestions and opinions that they get the full picture. That means, if something is said that is less than truthful, it's the responsibility of others to point that out. That is all that's happening here.

I believe you read my post so you saw the statement on round balls.Why is it nobody downs a round ball but always bashes a Powerbelt?I appreciate all the load information on powerbelts but I do not take it as gospel.I shoot the 245 grain Aero Tip Powerbelt with 2-50 grain pyrodex pellets with good accuracy.The deer you refered to was shot at in poor light conditions and was only grazed.Had it been a double lunger at that range I believe that deer would not have made it 50 yards.

Again, Poster asked for Accurate Loads for his Wolf. You guys seem to keep over looking that.
http://frontiermuzzleloadin.powergui...r-them-t21.htm

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If you are shooting close distance shots, you dont use a magnum load, you take it one step at a time for the new guys so you do not confuse them…

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So if you agree that Powerbelts do not work well at all ranges, why not suggest a bullet that does? Like a Barnes, Nosler, Lehigh or Gold Dot ect...

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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3732416)

One step at a time, dont flood the person with a ton of stuff all at once.

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You say you don't want to overwhelm him with information but now you're telling him he can only use your suggestion if it's long range. If it's short range, then he has to use something else. How is that not making it more confusing for him? A suggestion of a bullet that works from 10 to 150 yards would be a lot more helpful.

Do you see what people are saying MD? You're bringing this on yourself.