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hunt12ga 11-24-2010 06:01 PM

As far as cost goes, I got to thinking about it. I went to WalMart to pick up a box of 777 pellets a while back. The boxes were out, so I bought the 24 pellet pack. $13. Hmmm... 12 shots for 13 bucks. The BH isn't so expensive after thinking about that!

rw

Grouse45 11-24-2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by hunt12ga (Post 3728425)
As far as cost goes, I got to thinking about it. I went to WalMart to pick up a box of 777 pellets a while back. The boxes were out, so I bought the 24 pellet pack. $13. Hmmm... 12 shots for 13 bucks. The BH isn't so expensive after thinking about that!

rw

Actually, not a fair comparison. Bh209 is not sold in pellet form. 777ffg is at my walmart for $16.99 for a 1lb jug. Cabelas has BH209 for $29.99 for 10 ounces. BH209 is actually over double the cost. But, i still buy the BH209.:s4:

sabotloader 11-24-2010 06:19 PM

hunt12ga

Not to stir the pot anymore than it has been, CVA has a problem with their BP's and the use of BH-209. If you would like to verify check with Western.

I highly suggest you take Ron up on his offer he has a lot of experiance with this modification and he understands the necessity of it for a lot of folks, contrary to what ever FG/MD would lead you to believe.

The 3mm 'flash channel' and the small 'flash hole' will not allow the volume of gas from the hot primers to work - they will actually clog up the breech plug.

Here is a drawing of the modifications that I would suggest. Even the n you still may have a head space problem that may need to be addressed.



Work with Ron to get these mods or even PM me and I will modify a BP for you.

Good Luck

hunt12ga 11-25-2010 04:54 AM

I have the BP that Don from Western sent me that I am going to try when this rain goes away. I have contacted Ron as well, and I am awaiting the arrival of my new BP! Thanks again Ron. Can't wait to try it out.

rw

smokey92 11-25-2010 08:58 AM

I'm surprised. I have a CVA Kodiak Pro Magnum. Last winter decided to try BH209. Fired a dozen rounds w/ Federal 209A primers, and a couple with Winchester W209 primers, and the ignition was flawless. Cold and damp outside at that time. I realize that is not a whole lot, but when hunting, if it goes bang the first time, I'm happy.

ronlaughlin 11-25-2010 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by smokey92 (Post 3728705)
I'm surprised. I have a CVA Kodiak Pro Magnum. Last winter decided to try BH209. Fired a dozen rounds w/ Federal 209A primers, and a couple with Winchester W209 primers, and the ignition was flawless. Cold and damp outside at that time. I realize that is not a whole lot, but when hunting, if it goes bang the first time, I'm happy.

One day it won't.

smokey92 11-25-2010 09:06 AM

Ron, will your plug fit my rifle? Will that help me?
thanks.

ronlaughlin 11-25-2010 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by smokey92 (Post 3728710)
Ron, will your plug fit my rifle? Will that help me?
thanks.

It is my understanding that the Accura plug will fit the Kodiak. If it will, my plug will certainly give more reliable ignition using BH209.

smokey92 11-25-2010 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=ronlaughlin;3728724]It is my understanding that the Accura plug will fit the Kodiak. If it will, my plug will certainly give more reliable ignition using BH209.[/QUOTE

PM sent.

sabotloader 11-25-2010 11:31 AM

u-all

I really do not know if Western will tell u-all as they have several of us. but by far the biggest share of their problems is with CVA breech plugs, but in fairness to CVA their plugs were never designed to handle BH.

Once you get you BP's altered with the Lehigh vent liner - actually any vent liner and the channel opened to at least 5/32" - most of your problem will disappear. One big point is the vent liner is hardened far harder than the original BP and will last for many years. You will actually be able to use a Win W209 one of the cooler primers to ignite BH and because of this your flash channel will not fill near as quickly.


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