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Old 09-06-2010 | 11:48 AM
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Since the original Knight Disc rifle I own was converted over to a Lehigh Generation II system for the breech plug, I have to admit a few things. I have really liked shooting the rifle in the past but hated all the loading of the primer jackets, etc. With the Lehigh Gen II system that is all in the past. I just drop a primer into the opening of the breech and push the handle down to **** the rifle, and we are ready to rock and roll. It has really made me want to shoot the rifle more. And I have been.

Today I wanted to push the Knight with a lot of bullets. And a lot of powder in some cases.

RIFLE... Knight Disc .50 caliber 1-28 twist 24 in barrel Lehigh Gen II
breech plug conversion

POWDER... Pyrodex RS
PRIMERS... Winchester W209
PROJECTILES... 250 grain Hornady XTP, 250 grain Bonded Shockwaves, 375 grain Buffalo Bullet pure lead SSB (* the SSB is a pure lead with a slight hollow point)
DISTANCE... 75 yards bench rest

SWAB SOLUTION... Rusty Duck Black Off

I started the shooting on a clean barrel with 90 grains of Pyrodex RS and the 375 grain Buffalo Bullet SSB. This is a good stout load but the design of the rifle eats that up perfect.



I was real impressed with the load until #5 pulled that little stunt. I guess I can live with it, but I really saw no reason why it jumped out of the group the way it is. In fact after the smoke cleared I fully expected to see it with the other four.

I then kicked the powder charge up to 110 grains with the same bullet. I knew this would get exciting.



Again, the rifle ate the recoil up real well. And that would make a heck of a hunting load. Lots of powder with that heavy bullet.

I then swabbed the barrel very very clean. I changed to the Hornady XTP and decided to try 120 grains of loose Pyrodex RS. This was interesting. Also a lot of smoke when fired.



Here I was swabbing every second shot, and every second shot was a semi flier. So is swabbing that important when shooting a max charge? I guess so.

Again, I swabbed the bore clean and then changed to the 250 grain Shockwave Bonded with a MMP sabot.



This is the first time I shot the bonded Shockwaves. It is my understanding that these are for larger game like elk, moose, bear.. correct me if I am wrong. The bonded is not needed for deer. The accuracy was exceptional. The prior XTP test showed me the need to swab and I was swabbing after each shot. Then #5 pulled a semisane on me. Again, after shooting I really expected to see it in the rest of the group. So for kicks, I did not swab and shot #6. Actually this rifle always did shoot Shockwaves well. But these bonded did real well with that powerful of a powder charge.

Next time out, it will be conicals...
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Old 09-06-2010 | 12:24 PM
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Nice shooting and nice report Dave. Did your gun stay pretty clean in the breech area? I may have to get one of those conversions for my disc elite rifle. I haven't shot that in over a year.
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Old 09-06-2010 | 02:02 PM
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It will amaze you how clean the breech area is. When I cleaned the breech plug, I took the tape off it and then thought I must have cleaned it. I finally put a few Q tips in the nose of the breech plug and wiped out the base but that was all. The breech area of the rifle was 99% clean. I took the bolt off and that cleaned up all real easy. The thing that took me the longest to clean was the rifle breech plug threads. They had some black stuff on them (and I do not think it was breech grease) and I finally broke out some Hoppe's and that cleaned up.

Once I had the rifle nice and clean I gave the barrel a Montana X-treme Bore Treatment and put the whole thing back together.

Out on my range before I came in.. I swabbed the barrel twice with Rusty Duck Black Off. Inside it took two patches to clean the barrel. I think this Montana Bore Treatment is the reason it cleans so easy, no matter what kind of powder I shoot.

As for the projectiles. I wanted to try new ones and I wanted to really push them. The Bonded Shockwaves were a real surprise. They loaded fine, and really were doing a group until 5 came along..
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Old 09-06-2010 | 02:24 PM
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The Bonded Shockwaves were a real surprise. They loaded fine, and really were doing a group until 5 came along..
Dang SEMI! and his darn rules... everytime I get past #4 with everything going great - I start thinking about the rules... needless to say if I did not know the RULE - i wouldn't think about it and my results would be better more often...

I am sure he published those rules out of spite!!!
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Old 09-06-2010 | 02:27 PM
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At least we have someone to blame!
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Old 09-06-2010 | 04:16 PM
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Cayugad said: Then #5 pulled a semisane on me.
Sabotloader said: I am sure he published those rules out of spite!!!
Cayugad said: At least we have someone to blame!
Semisane says: You guys are lucky my wife and I are visiting her sister in Georgia. Therefor I'm not at my computer with all of my regular resources. If I were, I could post a few pictures to provide an appropriate response to those libelous statements.

Sure - blame the messenger. I only published those rules to clairfy the cause & effect processes for those poor souls recently infected with the muzzleloading virus. We all knew the truth, but were fearful of speaking up less one become branded as I have been.

Those malicious gods are out there. They've ALWAYS been there. Don't blame me. Denying evil? Ignoring evil? Pretending it doesn't exist? - - - All useless.

Wishing evil would go somewhere else is totally ineffective. Believe me, if that worked Nancy Pelosi would serving peanut butter sandwiches at a high school cafeteria in the Watts area of South Los Angeles. So you guys can close your eyes to the truth if you want. But as for me - give me a tight group or give me a flyer, I shall keep shooting!!!

Anyway, that was a good report Cayugad. I especially enjoyed it because I have a deal with a guy in Lafayette, LA, that if he hasn't sold his .45 Elite by the end of this week when I return from Georgia, I'll buy it. If that happens it will be my first Knight.

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Old 09-06-2010 | 05:44 PM
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very nice report cayuga,i really like the nfpj setups for the disc series rifles.i installed the lehigh one in a 1/20 .45 superdisc but have only shot primers thru it to check the function and it seems really nice.
semi-if you get your first knlght i bet it won't be your last.......karl
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Old 09-06-2010 | 05:45 PM
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sweet! now do the same thing with blackhorn so I can find a load for my knight!

Those SW look great, I hope that the 265 gr FTX's I picked up can do the same thing. I can't seem to get a decent group with the 300 gr gold dots...
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Old 09-06-2010 | 06:00 PM
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Just a short point... with any of the Gold Dots with the recessed base - To get the best accuracy - you really have to kick them in the rear - 110-120 T7-2f is what I am using.
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Old 09-06-2010 | 06:02 PM
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No VOODOO magic I fear that.
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