brass, copper, and gold
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Nontypical Buck
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Today was the day to film the brass bullet. Pictured below left to right are the brass bullet, the copper bullet, and the gold bullet (gold dot). The camera say it video at 30 frames/second, so i assume the time of each picture is 1/30 second for the first 8 or so, then i skipped some for a time, then went to the end which took about 1.5 seconds for most things to quit happening.













The brass bullet was in an orange sabot and weighed a bit over 303g. The copper bullet was a 290g TEZ. The gold bullet weighed 270g. Range was about 60 feet, and the powder charge was 105g BH209.
After things settled, the brass bullet was found in the phone books. The copper bullet was found in the 5th jug. The gold bullet was inside the 4th jug.













The brass bullet was in an orange sabot and weighed a bit over 303g. The copper bullet was a 290g TEZ. The gold bullet weighed 270g. Range was about 60 feet, and the powder charge was 105g BH209.
After things settled, the brass bullet was found in the phone books. The copper bullet was found in the 5th jug. The gold bullet was inside the 4th jug.
#3
ronlaughlin
To be honest with you - your findings would be exactly what I would have expected from the bullets you shot. Certainly all of them would have provided an excellent harvest.
The point I have tried to make about the Lehigh's is that after they shed the petals... the main bullet continues to penetrate. The shape of the blunt nosed core is an extremly important point. Because of it's blunt nose it creates additional 'Hydrostatic' shock as it continues it's penetration route. Those that have shot them know what a 'Kieth Nose' conical can do and the Lehigh bullet core does mimmick a Kieth Nose.
Great shot shots Ron...
To be honest with you - your findings would be exactly what I would have expected from the bullets you shot. Certainly all of them would have provided an excellent harvest.
The point I have tried to make about the Lehigh's is that after they shed the petals... the main bullet continues to penetrate. The shape of the blunt nosed core is an extremly important point. Because of it's blunt nose it creates additional 'Hydrostatic' shock as it continues it's penetration route. Those that have shot them know what a 'Kieth Nose' conical can do and the Lehigh bullet core does mimmick a Kieth Nose.
Great shot shots Ron...
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Boone & Crockett
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Ron, those are GREAT picture sequences. Thanks for posting.
What's the approximate diameter of those bottles? It seems that all three bullets would exit even a large whitetail with a broadside behind the shoulder shot.
What's the approximate diameter of those bottles? It seems that all three bullets would exit even a large whitetail with a broadside behind the shoulder shot.
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Nontypical Buck
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The jugs are real close to 4 1/2" deep where the bullets pass through. There is no doubt all 3 bullets will pass through a large whitetail. The XTP only penetrated through 2 jugs and was found in the bottom of the third, in a past test, and it plows right through whitetails.
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Excellent photographing, it really demonstrates the difference in energy release and using the energy for penetration. A good demonstration of why some of us match the bullet to the animal, on a bigger animal the penetration is needed on a deer ,boar or small bear [black] putting the energy in the hill behind the animal don't bring it down faster.
Thanks Ron for your work and effort and for sharing.
Thanks Ron for your work and effort and for sharing.
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..........................the difference in energy release and using the energy for penetration. A good demonstration of why some of us match the bullet to the animal, on a bigger animal the penetration is needed on a deer ,boar or small bear [black] putting the energy in the hill behind the animal don't bring it down faster................................
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Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. When it comes to comparing bullets, it seems it gets harder these days . Most major bullets made for muzzleloaders seem to be pretty close in performance and getting better. It sure isn't like it was in the early 80's when I had a choice between the roundball or the mini.


