TC Triumph vs CVA Accura V2?
 

I was all set to get a Triumph this coming week but just saw the CVA Accura V2 online. I've owned a Rem 700 and a TC Encore so far but have never even looked at the CVA's before. I guess I always thought they were cheapo's. But looking online this new gun looks like it has all the right features.

I'm planning on seeing it in person tomorrow to get the "Feel" of each.

But I see the CVA add's the Hammer spur, Thumbhole, fluted & stainless barrel that the TC does not come with.

I tried to do some searching online and on here but no reviews.
Anyone have anything to say about these guns side by side?

We have the V2 plain jane with the soft touch black stock and the SS barrel. 2" groups today with it at 100 yards with open sights and my brother behind the wheel.

They dont have it listed on the site but the V2 has a user adjustable trigger.

Handle them both and figure out which you like the best. The V2 has the Bergara barrel as well

Just back it out all of the way for the lightest trigger pull.

I know the triumph is better than the Omega, but I have owned and loved my Omega for 3 years. It has kept my freezer full....but I bought the old Accura from cabelas over the winter (stainless/ realtree for $329) and absolutely love it. Shoulders much nicer and is remarkably accurate out of the box. I don't shoot that often so I shoot 777 pellets. 3 30 grns and a 245 xtp is silly accurate at 100 yards in the accura. I think CVA has really upped their game recently. I'm sure the V2 is even better. The trigger on my accura is noticeably better than the omega. Good luck

As much as CVA had problems in the past, they have greatly improved over the years, but I love my Triumph

I'm still struggling with this choice.

CVA - Full Stainless Bergara barrell, EZ removable fully threaded breech plug, Hammer spur, crisper trigger, thumbhole stock, fluted barrel, no crazy relocking mechanizm when shutting the barrel.

Everything tells me to go for the CVA except for the 1/2 lb of extra weight and the CVA name and reputation.

Why can there never be a gun that has it ALL?

shoots full bore conicals with ease, comfortable with open sights.

95Harley

Personally and for myself only.... I would not get either of those two guns... I do currently have a Triumph (plane jane model)

My first choice would be, if it is something you need to do immediately, I would get a SS Omega. I think it is a better life time gun... I also have a SS Omega that is really a good gun.

But, what I would really do if you have the time to wait... is wait for the new offereing(s) from Knight. They are going to be worth the wait.

I had a Triumph and an original accura - still have the Triumph.

Care to elaborate? Interested in what things influenced your decesion to go with one or the other.

I have 14 muzzle loaders besides the Triumph and have had many others, the Triumph is the most accurate with the widest range of loads. If I could only keep one it would be the Triumph; but I do wish that they would make a SS version.

Oh the Great Debate, TC vs CVA. First off yur not going to change anyones mind about what they like, if you drive a FORD and love FORD's then your not going to buy a Chevy.
CVA has come a long way, and they are not the old CVA with the old CVA problems, they were sold to BPI and started a new. I have owned CVA's for about 20 years and never had a problem with any of them execpt finding more room in my Freezer to put all the Venison in.
The ACCURA (old and new) have a SS Bergara Barrel, TC does,nt, not even there own SS Barrel. To me the SS Bergara Barrel is what sold me on the ACCURA, and yes it is everybit as accurate as they say, and it's a Breeze to clean. To date I can get 1/2" groups at 100yds (scoped) and 1 1/2" at 200. Is the Triumph accurate, sure, but look at the price and what you get for your money and the ACCURA beats everything about the TC but the name.
And yes I have owned a Triumph, my biggest beef with the Triumph is trying to close the action without making any noise, you have to (snap) close it. Now I dont care how good a ML is, if you cant load it and shoot it with out being quiet than it's not for me. Would you buy a BOW that everytime you drew it back it squeeked. My second beef with the Triumph is the (Tight Bore) it's not user friendly when it comes to bullet selection, some go down so hard you feel like your going to break the ramrod, the ACCURA loads with ease.
Now what I liked best about the ACCURA besides accaracy is the (Trigger Pull) it's clean and smooth, you need this to get off good shots, the Triumph's not as smooth.
Now Im not bashing TC, they make great MLers, but for what you get between the TC Triumph and CVA ACCURA, the ACCURA gets my vote.

Well, i guess i would agree with everything you wrote about the Accura. However, i just went out in the garage and pulled the triggers on the Accura and the Triumph, and i couldn't find anything rough about the Triumph trigger. It breaks about as cleanly as a trigger can. It seems to pull some harder than the Accura is all. Actually, i have felt some creep in the Accura trigger before, but didn't feel any just now.

That Accura at Midway for $250 has me thinkin', and i do have a scope without a home.

Get the one that feels right, if it fits best you will shoot best.

theres a gun shop and a guy names of Carlos that works there, he'll guarantee you 1/2" groups with your Bergara barrel if you follow his directions. Let me see if i can find his email address for you

OK, I guess I've decided!:happy0001:

I just got back from a lunchtime break at Bass Pro Shop, they just got in 1 (and ONLY 1) CVA Accura 2 Stainless with a Camo thumbhole stock in stock.

I held the TC Triumph side by side with the CVA Accura V2 and here is my opinions:

1. CVA has a full stainless barrell (BIG WIN)
2. CVA has a hammer spur extender, helps during late season
3. HATE the TC re-locking mechanizm to close the barrel, while the CVA opens and closes just like my TC Encore
4. CVA holds better for me as the forearm is thinner and not as wide along the base as the Triumph
5. CVA has a crisper and I believe lighter trigger
6. And I plan on using it to hunt Elk in CO (open sights) and the CVA throws up better than the Triumph. You can tell the TC was designed to use a scope.
7. I was also afraid the CVA weighed a lot more than the Triumph but honestly I could feel no difference in the 2.

So even though I have a TC Encore 209x45 and .22-250 in the safe it is a NEW CVA for me.

Now I'll take it to the range and HOPE I don't have any regrets, but for now I'm sold on this new gun.


For all the TC fans out there, don't mis read a thing. My 209x45 and 22-250 Encore are tack drivers and will not be leaving my safe anytime soon. (See attached 100yd 109x45 and 200yd .22-250 targets for proof)


But these two guns side by side I say the CVA Accura V2 beats the TC Triumph, but the range will tell the tale.

Stay tuned.

There should be a screw behind the trigger guard. Adjust it all of the way out to lighten trigger pull on the V2.

i dont think you will regret the V2's Accuracy! Ours shoots like a devil with open sights and powerbelts at 100 yards.

Those Power Belts are another story...I tried them out of my Encore 45 and I was lucky to even hit the paper and had swore them off ever since.

I will try some but I'm real apprehesive of them. I hear the 245 Aero shots well out of this gun. But I really have no idea what load to begin trying.

777, White Hots, BH 209
Pellets or Loose
Hornady FSB's, Powerbelts, SW's

While I'm upgrading I want to use the most modern tech available to extend range and accuracy.

thats tc for you.

CVA really does well with Powerbelts.

245-295gr Powerbelt - 90-100gr BH209 and CCI 209M primers are a beast in our V2

You also need to take a look at Thor bullets. We'll most likely be using them again this year

I know Im gonne get some from (MountainDevil) on this one, but here goes......the Powerblets plain Suck on taking down Game, they shoot good out of the CVA's but that's it.
Out of all My CVA's I use the 240gr XTP Mags with either 100gr's of Pyro Pellets or 110gr's of Pyro RS. They shoot amazing out of the ACCURA's, HunterBolt Mag and My Staghorn. I have NEVER LOST a Deer using them and they are Devestating, Ive used them for about 20years. Plus the Groups are also nothing short of Great.
(BP)
also since you mentioned Range, I have taken Deer from 175 to 200 yds with the XTP's and some were complete pass through's, that's as far as I like to shoot, most all Deer were standing still feeding in Cornfields when shot. But most of my Deer are taken from 15-80yds.

Im not a PB fan either but in my original Accura and my Elite 45, the 45cal 300gr PB Plats shot great with 100grs of BH209. Including 3 nearly in a single hole.

The ONLY reason i got them was because i got them for about half price and it has about the best sectional density of all the PBs.

IMO it might be the best PB for a 45cal but i would never buy them at retail. :P

As for the V2 vs the Triumph they will both shoot well so it boils down to what you like. It would be hard to say you went wrong with either as long as your happy. I have no regrets about buying my original Accura at all.....other than finding my Elite for less than half the cost later. :lol:

If your not in a hurry you might consider waiting to see what other options are available before the season. Knight might have something out by then and its always nice to keep your options open. :D

Could'nt have said it better, good choice, enjoy!

I owned and shot both - the real test. I have a bunch of Whites I shoot conicals with #11 caps. I wanted a rifle that shot BH209 with sabots reliably and accurately - the Triumph did this - the accura did not for me. And if they both had proformed equally, the Triumph would have won for asthetics and feel - again for me.

Took a quick picture tonight of my new .50 cal CVA. No wonder I liked it so much.

Look at this thing compared to my .45 cal Encore. Striking comparison...now I hope it shoots as good as my old .45.

if you do not like the way your scope is mounted on the cva. there is a one piece base by durasight that will fit, I have one for my cva.

go to cva .com and click in the store section to find

http://store.cva.com/cva/z2-alloy-pr...se-silver.html

I wanted one of these, but they didn't make it in APG. Maybe when they increase their line I'll replace.

http://store.cva.com/cva/z2-alloy-pr...il-system.html

If you NEVER, EVER plan on shooting conicals, go with the Triumph.

If conicals might be in the future, go with the Accura. T/C will tell you the Triumph won't shoot conicals.

Accura V2 will shoot conicals just as good as the triump. Why settle for a gun that can only shoot one type of projectile. V2!

Why choose a gun that will shoot conicals if you are buying it to shoot sabots?

V2 shoots 'em all. Kind of like a White