Your "0" and my "0"
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Fork Horn
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I sight my muzzle loaders in at 100 yards. I can sometimes get shots longer than that and I just aim high with holdover. If I get a shot closer than that I hold under or on depending on the range. This works fairly well for me.
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Giant Nontypical
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Mike, I think they follow that line over some safty issues. My chrony and the trajectory at 250 yds says other wise. Also if they were true why would it shoot a lot tighter groups with 140 grins of BH. I believe that 110 to 120 is the max efficient load with most powders not trure with blackhorn, the pressure readings bear that out to.
The point od diminising returns is between 90 and 100grains the point where the velocity starts backing up is over 135.
The point od diminising returns is between 90 and 100grains the point where the velocity starts backing up is over 135.
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Nontypical Buck
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There was once when i had a long shot out on the prairie, at a sleeping deer. There was no wind, and i was on my belly. There was no range finder in my pocket. Knowing the ballistics of my Gold Dot load had me try the shot, which resulted in a dead deer and a mighty long drag. Guessing like that, and holding high, had me nearly shooting over the top of the deer, but luck prevailed. The GPS say it was 231 yard. The strangest part of this tale, is the bullet hit no vitals. The Gold Dot snuck through the chest, above the lungs, and below the spine. The deer was temporarily paralyzed, but was starting to move by the time i was able to drop down through a ravine, and walk over to it. Cutting it's throat was required to kill it. If i could have reloaded lying on my back, i could have shot another, but luck prevailed again, and stopped me from having to drag 2 deer, which probably would have come near, to causing my demise.
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Where I hunt, I have about a 50 yard distance I can see. Unless I hunt hay fields. So my hay field rifles are sighted in at 100 yards. I am not one that likes to shoot extreme distances but will if all things are right.
My woods rifles I like to sight in at 75 or 50 yards. I do this because in the past I have had some instances where I had to shoot between some and into some narrow openings where extreme accuracy must be made. I want that + dead on in that case and not hitting "about three inches high" at that distance. So depending on what stand I am headed to... will often determine what rifle I take.
I do understand your thinking there Lee. And I believe I will sight in one of my hay field rifles like you suggested. Shots there are always 80 yards or better. So that sight in you suggested would be a great advantage. Thanks for the heads up.
My woods rifles I like to sight in at 75 or 50 yards. I do this because in the past I have had some instances where I had to shoot between some and into some narrow openings where extreme accuracy must be made. I want that + dead on in that case and not hitting "about three inches high" at that distance. So depending on what stand I am headed to... will often determine what rifle I take.
I do understand your thinking there Lee. And I believe I will sight in one of my hay field rifles like you suggested. Shots there are always 80 yards or better. So that sight in you suggested would be a great advantage. Thanks for the heads up.
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Giant Nontypical
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cayugad
There is no doubt that location and circumstances can be a lot different for each of us, i have some places like my own property that fit your description but there are a lot of places open to hunting here in AR and I often go with friend to a couple of places near by where 200 yds will happened it has before. At that time it was very windy so I passed, but if the circumstances were right I would have eaten that buck.
I some times take my PRB rifles when I hunt my own property and they are only sighted for 100 yds even though the 54's are capable of more for the very reason you mentioned. The thread was not really a suggestion that anyone should more of a explanation of PBR in case there are some people that did not know about it. Lee
There is no doubt that location and circumstances can be a lot different for each of us, i have some places like my own property that fit your description but there are a lot of places open to hunting here in AR and I often go with friend to a couple of places near by where 200 yds will happened it has before. At that time it was very windy so I passed, but if the circumstances were right I would have eaten that buck.
I some times take my PRB rifles when I hunt my own property and they are only sighted for 100 yds even though the 54's are capable of more for the very reason you mentioned. The thread was not really a suggestion that anyone should more of a explanation of PBR in case there are some people that did not know about it. Lee
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I learned about PBR at Parris Island in 1965.The Marines call it "Battle Sights" Zero at 900 inches good to 300 yds. Zero at 25 yds and adjust to suit your particular rifle/load. My Omega is + - 3" out to 175 yds.
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Nontypical Buck
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