Accura, Optima or Wolf, Decisions, Decisions...
06-05-2010, 04:49 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Accura, Optima or Wolf, Decisions, Decisions...
I've decided that I'm going to get myself a treat this summer in the form of a new ML. I already have a .45, so I'm going with a .50. I've narrowed it down to these 3 rifles:
Accura blue/black - $250
Optima (new version) stainless/black - $250
Wolf nickel/black - $150
I've heard good things about all 3, but never shot any of them. I've shouldered the Accura & Optima, but not the Wolf. I realize that the Wolf is not in the same league in terms of quality as the other two, but it is $100 cheaper, which is a very real issue for me. The other advantage of the Wolf is that it is shorter and more manuverable for use in a tree stand, which is where it would primarily be used. I'll be shooting saboted bullets, no conicals and don't plan on using more than 100 grains of T7 FFFG. Thoughts, opinions anyone????
Accura blue/black - $250
Optima (new version) stainless/black - $250
Wolf nickel/black - $150
I've heard good things about all 3, but never shot any of them. I've shouldered the Accura & Optima, but not the Wolf. I realize that the Wolf is not in the same league in terms of quality as the other two, but it is $100 cheaper, which is a very real issue for me. The other advantage of the Wolf is that it is shorter and more manuverable for use in a tree stand, which is where it would primarily be used. I'll be shooting saboted bullets, no conicals and don't plan on using more than 100 grains of T7 FFFG. Thoughts, opinions anyone????
06-05-2010, 05:24 PM
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Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Burlington,Vt
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At the present time I have an Accura,stainless,black. Great rifle. Upgraded from the Wolf. However the Wolf is also a great rifle. I loved mine but felt it was time to upgrade. It was a very easy rifle to load, shoot and clean. Also was very accurate. I don't think you could go wrong with either one. If finances are tight get the Wolf and you won't be sorry. They are a great woods rifle and tree stand rifle. Short and highly manueverable it tight quarters.
06-05-2010, 06:14 PM
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Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Go handle each one and pick the one you like. I would have a hard time choosing if i was buying a ML only CVA today.
The new Optima though sure does feel nice and shoulders well for a full sized rifle.
I handled both the new models yesterday to compare them to my original Accura and both were very nice.
If i was looking at the Wolf i would pay the extra for the new model after seeing them and handling them side by side.
The new Optima though sure does feel nice and shoulders well for a full sized rifle.
I handled both the new models yesterday to compare them to my original Accura and both were very nice.
If i was looking at the Wolf i would pay the extra for the new model after seeing them and handling them side by side.
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06-06-2010, 06:20 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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Location: Rivesville, WV
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I have seen some really great prices on some closeout Knight disc rifles. And some used MK-85 Knight rifles for close to or about the same price. I would have a hard time buying any of the three you listed if I could buy a Knight for even close to the same price. I would even save up to pay more for the Knight. So I guess you know that I like the Knight's.
IMO there a only a couple of important parts to a MZ. The barrel, the stock, and the trigger. You could say the action. but not so much on a MZ. And right off the bat Knight has to of the three best that there is. And that would be the Green Mountain barrel. They can nt be beat. And there is no doubt that the MK-85 has the finest trigger ever put in an MZ-short of custom. So then it only comes down to stock choice. Tom.
IMO there a only a couple of important parts to a MZ. The barrel, the stock, and the trigger. You could say the action. but not so much on a MZ. And right off the bat Knight has to of the three best that there is. And that would be the Green Mountain barrel. They can nt be beat. And there is no doubt that the MK-85 has the finest trigger ever put in an MZ-short of custom. So then it only comes down to stock choice. Tom.
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06-06-2010, 08:21 AM
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i own all 3 and i can tell you to just write down OPTIMA - Accura - Wolf on seperate sheets of paper, put them into a hat, stir it and draw a name. All 3 are shooters and very comfortable rifles. The new wolf and optima, you just cant beat them as far as price, quality and especially the triggers.
The Accura V2 runs about $350
The Accura V2 runs about $350
06-06-2010, 08:51 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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I do not believe the CVA trigger is even in the same league with the removable, and fully adjustable Knight trigger. Like the one on the MK-85. The CVA is not even close.
And the Bergera barrel is a decent barrel. But it is not an Amercian made Green Mountain Barrel. And only in recent years, because their history sucks.
I am not saying your CVA's wil not shoot. It is not difficult to get a MZ to shoot well. But for overall quality?? No way a CVA competes with Knight. The may do a better marketing job. I will grant you that. But pure quality?? No way. Tom.
And the Bergera barrel is a decent barrel. But it is not an Amercian made Green Mountain Barrel. And only in recent years, because their history sucks.
I am not saying your CVA's wil not shoot. It is not difficult to get a MZ to shoot well. But for overall quality?? No way a CVA competes with Knight. The may do a better marketing job. I will grant you that. But pure quality?? No way. Tom.
06-06-2010, 09:01 AM
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You're right about cva not being able to compete with knight... I think Traditions outsells knight these days. TC and CVA however run head to head, and with the rifles TC's putting out recently ( impact/ northwest) they are starting to slip.
Try a trigger on the Accura, mines right at 2lbs from the factory. I believe Underclocked's accura trigger is under 2lbs if i am not mistaken.
Green Mountain means nothing to me. Traditions uses Wilson barrels on their centerfire rifles. White used them as well if im not mistaken.
Try a trigger on the Accura, mines right at 2lbs from the factory. I believe Underclocked's accura trigger is under 2lbs if i am not mistaken.
Green Mountain means nothing to me. Traditions uses Wilson barrels on their centerfire rifles. White used them as well if im not mistaken.
06-06-2010, 09:05 AM
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Typical Buck
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Are you planning on putting a scope on the rifle? The lower cheek on the Wolf may be a disadvantage. That may be a reason to jump up to the Optima. Other than that, if you are on a tight budget (I definitely know where you're coming from) I'm sure the Wolf will do what you want it to.
I have an Optima and I really like the rifle. The way I look at it is that I get to take a muzzleloader to the woods about 10 days per year here in Illinois (if I have the vacation time) and I can't rationalize spending any more that what I did. Mine is the black/blue plane-jane version, but deer don't know the difference. It kills them just as dead as a $1000 gun.
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I have an Optima and I really like the rifle. The way I look at it is that I get to take a muzzleloader to the woods about 10 days per year here in Illinois (if I have the vacation time) and I can't rationalize spending any more that what I did. Mine is the black/blue plane-jane version, but deer don't know the difference. It kills them just as dead as a $1000 gun.
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