Triumph BC LEMON?? (No just Fickle)
03-20-2010, 03:35 PM
#11
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hudson, Wisconsin
Posts: 128
SHulion
Yes I'm a very happy guy. At least I have something to build on. A light went on in my head when I went to the Cablela's website and read this review.
"Just tried these 250 gr. T-EZ's today in my T/C Bone Collector. Amazing accuracy! Sighting in a remounted scope and started at 25 yds and first two rounds went through the same hole. Couldn't believe it so I put a hole sticker over the hole and fired a thrid round and sure enough, right throuh the same hole again. Moved to 50 yds and largest group was 1". I was using two pellets of Pyrodex for the intitial sight in. I only had a few of the Barnes sabots with me and soon ran out of them but I can't wait to try them with 3 pellet loads next weekend. The Shockwave's I've been using produced no better than 3" groups at 50 yds and 6"-7" groups at 100 yds. T-EZ's load very easy and seat consistently without requiring a superhuman effort. Barnes made a believer out of me! I just ordered a healthy supply for an upcoming late season deer hunt in Ohio"
This guy's review mirrors my experience this morning. "The Shockwave's I've been using produced no better than 3" groups at 50 yds and 6"-7" groups at 100 yds."
I thought hey....mabe I'll try some of these.
Anyway, I'm not going to stick it in the ground. It's feels just too darn good in my hands.
Yes I'm a very happy guy. At least I have something to build on. A light went on in my head when I went to the Cablela's website and read this review.
"Just tried these 250 gr. T-EZ's today in my T/C Bone Collector. Amazing accuracy! Sighting in a remounted scope and started at 25 yds and first two rounds went through the same hole. Couldn't believe it so I put a hole sticker over the hole and fired a thrid round and sure enough, right throuh the same hole again. Moved to 50 yds and largest group was 1". I was using two pellets of Pyrodex for the intitial sight in. I only had a few of the Barnes sabots with me and soon ran out of them but I can't wait to try them with 3 pellet loads next weekend. The Shockwave's I've been using produced no better than 3" groups at 50 yds and 6"-7" groups at 100 yds. T-EZ's load very easy and seat consistently without requiring a superhuman effort. Barnes made a believer out of me! I just ordered a healthy supply for an upcoming late season deer hunt in Ohio"
This guy's review mirrors my experience this morning. "The Shockwave's I've been using produced no better than 3" groups at 50 yds and 6"-7" groups at 100 yds."
I thought hey....mabe I'll try some of these.
Anyway, I'm not going to stick it in the ground. It's feels just too darn good in my hands.
03-20-2010, 04:20 PM
#14
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,747
Yes and that's where the fun comes in - and the satisfaction. Once you find the right load it tends to put a smile on your face. BTW, those yellow sabots that come with the shockwaves IMO are junk.
03-20-2010, 05:04 PM
#16
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boncarbo,Colorado
Posts: 9,186
question: Does the BC ramrod have to go in a certain way? I was playing with one at the sportsmans warehouse today and while the wrist area is chunky on the stock, the ramrod gave me pure hell.
Them boys sure get pushy when they leave the rope down and have you standing there for 10 minutes staring at the rifle rack. I finally said screw it, grabbed a traditions pursuit and looked it over and the guy approached me a few minutes later asking me go stay behind the rope ( which wasnt set up)
May want to run some JB Bore paste in that barrel too.
Them boys sure get pushy when they leave the rope down and have you standing there for 10 minutes staring at the rifle rack. I finally said screw it, grabbed a traditions pursuit and looked it over and the guy approached me a few minutes later asking me go stay behind the rope ( which wasnt set up)
May want to run some JB Bore paste in that barrel too.
03-20-2010, 05:18 PM
#17
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hudson, Wisconsin
Posts: 128
MountainDevil54
May want to run some JB Bore paste in that barrel too. Yep...standard practice when I get a new ML. Gave it about 15 nice even strokes with some JB paste, prior to firing it.
I'm pretty sure I'm narrowing down to what it likes and what it doesn't like. Things I learned today.
Likes
1) Barnes Boattail bullets. (just the opposite of what my Knight ML's like...flatbase all the way in them)
2) Modest load of Blackhorn
3) A very tight fit. 0.504" Diameter (not 0.500" like the 300 SW with hyper glide)
4) Bore swabbed after every shot even though I'm using Blackhorn.
Hates
1) 300 grain Shockwave bonded bullets with Hyper Glide sabot
2) Hyper Glide sabot with any bullet
May want to run some JB Bore paste in that barrel too. Yep...standard practice when I get a new ML. Gave it about 15 nice even strokes with some JB paste, prior to firing it.
I'm pretty sure I'm narrowing down to what it likes and what it doesn't like. Things I learned today.
Likes
1) Barnes Boattail bullets. (just the opposite of what my Knight ML's like...flatbase all the way in them)
2) Modest load of Blackhorn
3) A very tight fit. 0.504" Diameter (not 0.500" like the 300 SW with hyper glide)
4) Bore swabbed after every shot even though I'm using Blackhorn.
Hates
1) 300 grain Shockwave bonded bullets with Hyper Glide sabot
2) Hyper Glide sabot with any bullet
03-20-2010, 07:12 PM
#19
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hudson, Wisconsin
Posts: 128
The only reason I swabbed between shots is that I was thinking of trying the 0.504" bullet/sabot and thought a clean bore would be easier seating the bullet then a dirty barrel. Also when I hunt I like to clean the barrel so I don't have to worry at all about having a loaded gun with a dirty barrel for prolonged periods.
03-21-2010, 12:12 PM
#20
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hudson, Wisconsin
Posts: 128
It was a productive day today at the range.
After some tweeking I shot my first sub-MOA group with my new TC Triumph Bone Collector. After shooting 5.5" to 7.5" groups yesterday I really thought it would be impossible to get this gun to even get a 1.5" group. It knows what it likes and rejects everything it doesn't.
This was the winning combo to punch a 0.76" c-t-c group.
250 TMZ with yellow sabot
85 grains of BH209
Fed 209A primers
Average velocity 2100 fps
After some tweeking I shot my first sub-MOA group with my new TC Triumph Bone Collector. After shooting 5.5" to 7.5" groups yesterday I really thought it would be impossible to get this gun to even get a 1.5" group. It knows what it likes and rejects everything it doesn't.
This was the winning combo to punch a 0.76" c-t-c group.
250 TMZ with yellow sabot
85 grains of BH209
Fed 209A primers
Average velocity 2100 fps