Go Back  HuntingNet.com Forums > Firearms Forum > Black Powder
Testing Sabotloader's 700ML Conversion >

Testing Sabotloader's 700ML Conversion

Black Powder Ask opinions of other hunters on new technology, gear, and the methods of blackpowder hunting.

Testing Sabotloader's 700ML Conversion

Old 02-23-2010, 04:46 PM
  #1  
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,600
Default Testing Sabotloader's 700ML Conversion

Mike asked if I wanted to test out his new conversion and of course I jumped at the opportunity as we had already been talking back and forth about the project and I had been watching the results closely. It came in the mail yesterday so while the wife was at her bible study I decided to do a quick test.

I wanted something to accurately compare the blowback of both conversions so I decided to make a ‘weather shroud’ out of printer paper to catch all the dirt. It worked pretty well.





The first thing I did was test to see how the primers fit. Unfortunately, I only had 3 different types of primers left to compare.

The Winchesters fit perfectly in my opinion. I was able to get a piece of paper between the primer and the bolt face but that was it. The STS which is what I have been using most in the 700ML lately did not fit quite as tight but still very acceptable.




I started out shooting one primer with each brand using the Cabela’s conversion. It was about what I have come to expect from this conversion. Dirty and a good bit of blowback. In fact 3 times the paper shroud turned to confetti.





So then I cleaned up the nipple and breech, switched out the bolts and ran the same sequence through Sabotloader’s conversion.




Clearly A LOT cleaner. I unrolled the paper for a better understanding. You can see the strips numbered for each shot. Oddly enough, they became cleaner the more I shot. I can only assume this was from the buildup in the gaps which sealed them off.





Additionally, the sound was also different. With the Cabela’s version it was a crack like a .22. However, with the new conversion it was more of a sound like the old tater guns we used to make out of pvc. This clearly tells me the energy and heat from the primer is being directed down the barrel as opposed to back out the breach area.

Lastly I put in a clean shroud and fired 5 Kleanbores one right after the other. Couldn’t ask for much more than that.





I had brought my primer remover with me however; I never had to use it. All the primers came out by just popping them out with a fingernail. The primers were struck very solidly and remained perfectly intact.Saturday I will be headed to the range to see how it performs with several different loads. I’ll let you know how it shoots. Right now, I'm quite impressed.

Last edited by TNHagies; 02-23-2010 at 04:48 PM.
TNHagies is offline  
Old 02-23-2010, 05:50 PM
  #2  
Boone & Crockett
 
Semisane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
Posts: 10,866
Default

Excellent report TN. Those results are impressive. Congratulations Sabotloader. Your work really paid off.
Semisane is offline  
Old 02-23-2010, 06:31 PM
  #3  
Boone & Crockett
 
sabotloader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,650
Default

TNHagies

Glad it made to your house OK...

The Winchesters fit perfectly in my opinion. I was able to get a piece of paper between the primer and the bolt face but that was it.
That is exactly why I needed other folks to test the modification. For me with a Winchester primer W209, the modification pushes against the the primer - do not think you could get a piece of paper in there. But again the tolerances do vary from gun to gun. The real proof should come when you shoot it. The Winchester primers I have are the longest at .299/.300 and the STS measuring .295/.296
sabotloader is online now  
Old 02-24-2010, 08:14 AM
  #4  
Nontypical Buck
 
Breechplug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern Chautauqua Co. N.Y.
Posts: 2,976
Default

Nice report and excellant job on the conversion Mike, your work really paid off! Now I cant wait to see how the ML groups.........
(BP)
Breechplug is offline  
Old 02-24-2010, 07:30 PM
  #5  
Fork Horn
 
Nolehoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tupelo, MS
Posts: 173
Default

Is this a conversion Sabotloader engineered himself or bought and modified or what?
Nolehoe is offline  
Old 02-25-2010, 07:59 AM
  #6  
Boone & Crockett
 
sabotloader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,650
Default

Nolehoe

It is a bolt conversion in conjuction with the old Cabelas/Canadian 209 conversion. TNHagies was nice enough to test it in his Remm 700 for me. I had already tested it in the two Rem's that I have.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...converson.html
sabotloader is online now  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.