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New "cheap" T/C Rifle
Looking at the new Cabelas shooting catalog, saw a new T/C rifle I had not heard of before. They are marketing as a more affordable T/C with all the desireable features. They named it "Impact".
Here's what the catalog says: The features of a high-dollar muzzleloader with a price that won't break the bank. With features like an adjustable length of pull and a sleek, compact design, this gun ushers in a new era of muzzleloading. The QLA® muzzle system lets you load more quickly than ever before. A removable, fast-action sliding breech and break-open action make cleaning and maintenance easier. Does anyone know what the sliding breech looks like or how it operates? |
UncleNorby
New one on me - no information on the TC website yet? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...set=ISO-8859-1 |
I saw that in my new catalog also. Wonder what the sliding breach is? Like a Genisis or something? Maybe it is to compete with the Wolf. For my tight brush hunting the 26" barrel works fine and the Wolf fits me as i don't have long arms. I do have several other good ML rifles but they are longer and heavier. Seems like some new models this year all around. good thing
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I don't get it! Looks like they are trying to compete with the CVA price point.
Thanks for the link Sabot. Very interesting....... Steve www.muledeercountry.com |
I wonder if it isn't like a rolling block style
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Looks a lot like an Omega with a sliding block instead of a dropping one with an adjustable stock. [Just looking at the picture and guessing]. If they are making it special for Cabela's would they post information on the TC web page?
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TAKE A LOOK AT C.V.A. OPTIMA SS NEW SPEED BREACH PLUG $249.99 BERGARA BARREL. and a new wolf
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i agree, the new optima is pretty darned nice. im itching for one
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3553205)
i agree, the new optima is pretty darned nice. im itching for one
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This a quote from Busta...
This gun is probably a down graded Triumph in an attempt to compete at the entry level. I seen that rifle on Cabelas' site last night. It is just like the Triumph, without the toggle lock trigger guard, and it has plastic all up the side of the receiver. I think the lever on the back of the receiver is to open the breech, as it appears to be a tip-up (break open) rifle. I would say this is an attempt at an entry level rifle, as everything else they sell is way over $250. This also has an adjustable stock, obviously for the youth hunter. It also has the T/C logo molded into the stock, and comes in blued only. Check it out for yourself, and make sure you use the zoom feature to zoom in on the parts you would like a closer look at, like the receiver and stock. Not for me, but maybe for you? |
2010 Cabelas shooting catalog
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Originally Posted by ampelart
(Post 3553195)
TAKE A LOOK AT C.V.A. OPTIMA SS NEW SPEED BREACH PLUG $249.99 BERGARA BARREL. and a new wolf
Originally Posted by Breechplug
(Post 3553219)
MD, where did you see the new CVA Optima? I looked on CVA's Home Page and it was'nt listed??
(BP) thumbhole, http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...equestid=78656 They even updated the wolf with the QR breech plug,Adjustable stock, http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...=cat20815&rid= |
Bad things usually happen to the people who buy cheap models from an otherwise good company. I'll have to go to cabela's and see if they have one, and see what kind of shortcuts were made on the gun. But...it might not be bad at all. Considering T/C customer service, they don't want to make a crappy product they keep having to fix.
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Originally Posted by ampelart
(Post 3553195)
TAKE A LOOK AT C.V.A. OPTIMA SS NEW SPEED BREACH PLUG $249.99 BERGARA BARREL. and a new wolf
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why? The OP asked a question about how a new TC product operates. Taking a look at the CVA does not address his question:confused0024: |
new model rifles need attention. beats making a new post on a new rifle.
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
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beats making a new post on a new rifle.
And is far better then derailing one with a very specific question pertaining to a particular rifle. |
MountainDevil54
Here is what you posted on the Greybeard sight: "keep it up swamp and i'll have to go to the headman for a report on you. You wont turn this into a crap trolling post like you always do. Stick to the main topic." That sure was the pot calling the kettle black wasn't it? |
what happens here and on gbo is another thing. Swampman trolls all over GBO and is on watch by the head guys.
theres no "flaming" going on here anyway, just talk of the new rifles coming out. |
Originally Posted by SteveBNy
(Post 3553273)
Please don't take this the wrong way, but why? The OP asked a question about how a new TC product operates. Taking a look at the CVA does not address his question:confused0024:
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I would rather have Total /Confidence than A Cheap Valueless Acquisition
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The SHOT Show opens next week I'm sure some first hand reports will be forthcoming.
I thought the archery fanboys were bad.... there's a line between pride of ownership and psychosis. |
Originally Posted by chetmarks
(Post 3553351)
I would rather have Total /Confidence than A Cheap Valueless Acquisition
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Originally Posted by ampelart
(Post 3553228)
2010 Cabelas shooting catalog
My opinion is that it is a bad move on the part of T/C but since S&W took over this is the type of thing I figured would happen. That's the way Corporations work, especially when competing for :confused0024: the Almighty dollar. |
Originally Posted by chetmarks
(Post 3553390)
top of page 128.
My opinion is that it is a bad move on the part of T/C but since S&W took over this is the type of thing I figured would happen. That's the way Corporations work, especially when competing for :confused0024: the Almighty dollar. At least this gun is made in the Good Ol U. S. of A. . I hope they sell millions of them. |
Originally Posted by kb1
(Post 3553388)
this does'nt sound original,i'm thinkin borecleaningweasel's tellin whut to write.:s201:..karl
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Originally Posted by chetmarks
(Post 3553399)
Ok after thinking this through I take back what I said.
At least this gun is made in the Good Ol U. S. of A. . I hope they sell millions of them. (BP) |
looks like no thrills, but a good entry level gun probably. I think its a damn smart move on TC's part...with a tough economy still, they will probably sell plenty of them.
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I would be interested in hearing how a swing breech works - never seen one.
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SteveBNy
They call it a sliding breech and after Remington experiance with the 'swinging breech' i am not thinking it is a swinging breech - this is off the wall but i am wondering if the barrel slides away from the breech block????? |
Me bad - will be interesting to see what it really is.
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I agree with MNPRO, they needed a somewhat more affordable rifle to compete with some of the other manufacturers less expensive models.
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im having a hard time looking at the rifles with outdoorsmens Avatar pic :D
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haha...keep your eye on the prize!!!!
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sabotloader
Since we are having fun guessing I will venture one too. To me the idea of a sliding block considering they will want economical processing would mean the block slides back over the hammer to clear enough space for priming and unpriming. I would guess it will run on rails and let the hammer back down on a bar so it can not fire and that you would have to pull the hammer back to fire it after the block is locked in position for safety sake. Ti will be fun to see who's guess is closest. Lee |
Lee
If you look at the picture in the Cabelas Shooting Catalog - you can sorta make out a lever on the right side rear of the reciever and actually kinda right beside the trigger - so you might be right. Although i was inclined to think it might release the barrel and forarm to slide forward.... The other thing it does not appear to have any side reciever metal showing at all - almost looks like a one piece stock - except i think i can see a break at the rear of the forearm.. Change the magnification on windows down in the bottom right to 400 and look athe the non camo gun right to the right of the trigger... |
I looked it over good and as far as I can see it's a one piece stock. No Clues...
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By pulling the zoom up it looks like a two piece stock with a release on the side of the hammer block where it would break open in front of the trigger guard to have access to the barrel. It says in the description on cabela's that its a break open design. I may be wrong, but that how it looks like to me
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I know this is about the new TC ML but on TC's web page there is no mention anywhere of this new ML, as with the new CVA Optima there is also no mention on CVA's web page either, what gives? Are these just made for Cabela's? I cant find info anywhere on either one.
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