I wholeheartedly agree, yes i do.

Myself, i am the kinda person that likes new and better products. The new gps i recently purchased is much much much more functional than the first gps i used. There are new tools in my shop that work better than older models. There are, however, 'new' things that are new, but perhaps not better.

If one is looking for an accurate rifle that doesn't cost several hundreds of dollars, the current Accura as currently priced by Cabela, is a heck of a deal, and knowing what i know, i would purchase one if i didn't already have one. If i needed a rifle, i wouldn't wait for the 'new' version to arrive.

Semi, with all them darn Spices you have in Weeeezeeeeana, you really cant find one to make them XTP's taste good?
A tip...get rid of the slow cooker and try Grillen em with plenty of Cajun:devil:

Underclocked-quote-
"My concern is simple - the cost of replacement plugs will be much higher with the tool-free plugs as it has with the TC plugs for the Triumph and Endeavor. The prospect of using vent liners might become quite attractive economically."

Agree the 44 dollars for a replacement plug is a bit much and unnecessary. Mike and I have been working on the vent liners, I originally tried making some but with good ones available for 5 dollars that became inane. Now we have successfully installed and used them in Omega Triumph and Encore Endeavor. One of the things I have noted is that doing it the way we are; mike's idea of opening the flame channel all the way through has made a big difference in the amount of carbon deposited and I have note an improvement in long range group size. I would like to see some Knights and some of the CVA like the Accura have them installed and compare notes. I am wondering if this would be as big an improvement as it was for the guns we have tried it in so far? Lee

Not you BP - you are enthusiastic about your choices and I can't recall you ever sounding elitist about them or trashing anyone else's. All is good.

Did you ever get up to the Sausage Maker in Buffalo?

All's good Steve, I figured it out with a little help from my friends. And yes I got some spices on the way from Penzys, cant wait to try em out, thank's for the tip. I'll let you know how everything taste:party0005:
(BP)

Lee, do you work for TC?
(BP)

lemoyne

Just for information I have completed a couple of Knight's also - 2 FPJ's and one NFPJ. I am about to do a Knight Vison plug also. It is my feeling that the 'vent liner' and opening of the flame channel does have a direct effect on the reduction (not elimination) of blow back in the breech area with the Knight DISC.

Breechplug

BP - you are in the wrong tree here....

Yea it seems as if It has happened to me the last few times out Hunting, LOL
I guess Lee just likes to play around and see if he can Improve things and make them better?
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Breechplug

Couple of things...
1. I would call Lee a perfectionist (which I am not I settle for very good) - he really wants the best performance possible from what ever he has.
2. he is a retired gun smith - had his own business I think...
3. he is/was a bench shooting champion in his state - the man can shoot...

yeah no kidding.

Thanks Sabotloader - great info I did not know.
Makes me think I may have been out of line a time or 2 in the past.

only a line or 2? :D

With Lee - I think thats it.
That's it other then the time I made a mistake only to find out I was wrong;)

Hate to hijack here but, sl, I have two visions, each came with a different style bp. One has issues, the other doesn't. Knight has asked me to send it in for inspection. Both are crazy accurate. One has a cone shape on the inner side , the other is flat. When you are talking about opening the flame channel, does the vent liner keep the powder from entering the channel? Excuse my ignorance,,,thanks..

bleeohio

Exactly correct -One is the latest plug they built for the Vison and it is an excellent plug with T7 and BH + it is a ton cleaner... The cone plug is the older and more picky plug... talk to Gordy @ Knight and he will get you the correct plug.

It does... the flame channel is the area directly under the primer down to the flash hole...

Here are some pictures that might help you...

Sabotloader, thanks for the pics, makes it easier to comprehend what's going on. Just got the vision sent out today, talked to sam. For the money, a very good shooter. I shoot bh out of both and haven't had any issues with that end as far as the bp's go. The issue is the one with the flat bp, the firing pin doesn't hit the primer every time, just barely a dimple. The coned bp has a fairly strong magnet that pulls the primer in, do get a little more blowback on that one, though the other bp's pretty tight and i have to take pliers to get some primers out. I do have an accura that all primers seem to fit in pretty loose yet i get very little blowback? go figure. Knights customer service seems above normal and they are nice as pie, hope they get back on track. To bad they don't all make a universal bp, so they'd be easy to replace.

bleeohio

Sam is one of the real good guys at Knight - he will get you fixed up...

I will not say that is a common issue but it is a real easy fix.. the lock up bar is just not moving forward far enough on the barrel lug. They will fix that and have it back in no time....