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hometheaterman 11-06-2009 08:24 PM

Are there any choices better than a Gensis for $200-250?
 
So right now I have a Remington Genesis I got at the end of last year on clearance at Cabela's for $100 after sales and rebates. At first I wasn't thrilled with it as it's had very light use and the bluing on the barrel seemed to scratch through very easy. The camo also had a few very small chips on it. I also slightly messed up the rubber piece on the butt pad but that was my fault. Still works fine you can just tell it doesn't look perfect. Overall I'd rate it probably 95% condition. However, after shooting it then hunting with it I realized I love this thing. It shoots great, has a awesome feel to it and just fits me like a glove. I had issues keeping guns still usually however with this I can hold it fairly still. Just feels great to me. I figured a hunting rifle of any kind will get scratched up so I shouldn't worry about the bluing scratching. I've only been hunting with it 2 days and already gotten 2 deer with it. Just a awesome shooting gun to me. My only real complaint is you have to unscrew the ram rod to load it but it seems like you do with a lot now.

Anyway, I had a buddy with a Knight whose scope went bad this morning. I told him he could borrow the Genesis to use this afternoon. When I talked to him tonight he says he loves this gun and wants to know if I want to sell it to him for $200. He knows I only paid $100. I think this is more than generous however, I'm not sure that even at double what I paid I really want to get rid of it being as I like it a lot and want to use it to hunt with for hopefully years to come.

Basically what I'm asking is should I take the $200? Is there anything in that price range or $250 or so that's better than the Genesis or should I just stick with the Genesis? If there is something better than this gun I will sell it to him and upgrade. However, if there is nothing better in that price range I will just keep the Genesis. I really wish I'd gotten two Genesis's.

cayugad 11-06-2009 08:34 PM

Well it sounds like you have the new gun flu. And there is no vaccine for that. Why people who have a perfectly good gun decide they need a new one.. well I have had that bug for years.

The Genesis is a good rifle, no doubt. For $200-250 I am sure you could find a good used rifle on one of the Auction sites. But If you were happy with the Genesis, and your friend seems to have fallen in love with it... what's that tell you? It is a personal decision on your part. Glad I am not you.

hometheaterman 11-06-2009 08:50 PM

Yeah I'm 90% sure I will keep the Genesis. I just wish the finish was better on it but I really don't care if it gets scratched up as I got it to hunt with and any gun that gets used like that wont be in perfect shape.

I bought it as a spare gun but like I said I fell in love with it after shooting it. I can't really think of any I'd rather have so I think I will just keep this. I think the offer of double what I paid was just nice enough looking that it made me start doubting if I really wanted it.

I asked on here just in case there is something a lot better out that that I should consider.

MountainDevil54 11-06-2009 09:12 PM

Could find a cva accura for around 250, maybe some extra change.

cayugad 11-06-2009 09:33 PM

Well I have a stainless steel barrel Genesis with the black composite stock and like yours, it is a real shooter. I mounted a 3-9x40 Nikon Omega and intend to use the rifle in the modern deer season.

Underclocked 11-07-2009 02:38 AM

Since you really like the rifle (and so does your buddy), tell him he can buy you this one http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...STS%20FLT%20RT and you'll be happy. :)


Breechplug 11-07-2009 03:05 AM

I've owned a few (economicaly priced) CVA's, StagHorn, StagHorn Magnum, HunterBolt Mag. And for the money they were some good shooter's. The bluing on these also was'nt top notch. But they put some Deer in the Freezer and that's what counted. I actually got attached to them like you. But each year I had to buy a new and better model as to keep up with the Jone's.
Like Cayugad said (you got the new Gun Flu) and there is no Vaccine for this and it never goes away it just get's worse and worse. If you really like the ML than keep it, but for about what your Friend want's to give you for your's, and like MountainDevil54 said you can get a ACCURA for around 250, and that's 3 times the ML for the money and it is a good shooter.
I guess if it was up to me, I'd upgrade to a ACCURA or something else to your likeing, then when the Flu hit's you next time you have a better ML to bargain with.
Best of Luck to you.
(BP)

bigtim6656 11-07-2009 05:04 AM

Ya i am getting the camo triumph. I know it will get scratched this year properly the first hunt:eek2:

Originally Posted by hometheaterman (Post 3497873)
Yeah I'm 90% sure I will keep the Genesis. I just wish the finish was better on it but I really don't care if it gets scratched up as I got it to hunt with and any gun that gets used like that wont be in perfect shape.

I bought it as a spare gun but like I said I fell in love with it after shooting it. I can't really think of any I'd rather have so I think I will just keep this. I think the offer of double what I paid was just nice enough looking that it made me start doubting if I really wanted it.

I asked on here just in case there is something a lot better out that that I should consider.


hometheaterman 11-07-2009 06:11 AM

Can anyone check on Natchezss and seewhat the final price for both the above gun and one in the blued with camo stock would be after shipping and everything? I'd check myself but am on my phone and don't have access to a computer and when I do later today it will be on dial up. My phone doesn't seem to like the Natchezss site all that much. Thanks.

cayugad 11-07-2009 06:39 AM

around $460 without shipping for both of them. Man when you get the bug, you get the bug...

sabotloader 11-07-2009 07:39 AM

hometheaterman

Most definitely there are...

It would not take much time to find one of those choices...

Especially if you are willing to look at some used guns or even some discontinued guns such as the Knight DISC series or even the Knight Vision which is a really good break open if you like break opens.

Big Z 11-07-2009 08:31 AM

It ain't a pretty rifle but it sure does the trick. I shoot an Omega mainly, but I have a genesis (blued/camo)--I can't believe I got it, AND got deals on the scope for under $200. It's wearing a cabela's pine ridge. I have 4 of these scopes and they are priced greatly and work very well. I haven't done any serious shooting with it and it still didn't have problems shooting around 1.5" @ 100yds with the very first load I picked for it. What I don't like is the short ramrod, but that's no bother at the range as I use a range rod. Also the trigger is pretty rough, but again, not a big deal on a ML.

All-in-all, these may be ugly guns but I would recommend one if somebody could get their hands on one for a good price. If they could afford it, I'd go up to a T/C Omega. Now, since this gun fits you so well I'd probably keep it, but there's nothing wrong with making money off of it and getting yourself something else.

hometheaterman 11-07-2009 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 3498055)
around $460 without shipping for both of them. Man when you get the bug, you get the bug...

Sorry I didn't explain fully. I meant the price of each by themselves. I was wanting to compare the price difference between the two and if I picked one see what it would cost shipped. Thanks though.

MountainDevil54 11-07-2009 11:54 AM

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/54073

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/54072

Semisane 11-08-2009 09:58 AM

There's a lot of comfort in having a gun that fits you well, shoots great, and is all dinged up. Kind of like my wife - wouldn't ever give her up.

timbercruiser 11-08-2009 03:45 PM

If your buddy has a scope that failed, why does he need a new rifle? Seems he should be in the market for a better quality scope....

Underclocked 11-08-2009 04:50 PM

The difference should be $60 as I would think shipping charges would be the same for either.

kb1 11-08-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3498093)
hometheaterman

Most definitely there are...

It would not take much time to find one of those choices...

Especially if you are willing to look at some used guns or even some discontinued guns such as the Knight DISC series or even the Knight Vision which is a really good break open if you like break opens.

......1+ buy a knight,you won't be sorry.......karl

hometheaterman 11-09-2009 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by timbercruiser (Post 3499160)
If your buddy has a scope that failed, why does he need a new rifle? Seems he should be in the market for a better quality scope....

His scope failed however, his Knight still works fine. I think it's just that after borrowing mine he really liked it which is why he wants it or one like it. I have to say to me I feel more confident with this gun that many as it just fits me well. From the way he talked it fit him well too and he really liked how it feels and shot.

His old one also has the musket caps which are like #11 caps and kind of a pain so maybe he wanted to upgrade from that. I'm not sure.

As for his scope he had a Leupold on it that failed. So not exactly a cheap scope. Not sure what he is going to get now or if he is just going to have that one repaired. My Leupold also failed the same way but was repaired by Leupold as well as the only other person I know who has a Leupold has also had theirs fail the same exact way. It just starts self adjusting itself and jumping all over the place. This is what his did.

hometheaterman 11-09-2009 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3497881)
Could find a cva accura for around 250, maybe some extra change.

I checked out the CVA Accura at Bass Pro a little today. I for some reason just couldn't bring myself to like it. The gun part was great but I didn't like the stock on it. Seemed just odd to me.

MountainDevil54 11-09-2009 03:25 PM

they are comfy! I got the thumbhole as i felt it was a lot more comfortable plus it looked nice.

saxman1 11-10-2009 06:36 AM

Say it with me
I DON'T need a new ML
I DON'T need a new ML
I DON'T need a new ML

Oh well,it don't work for me either

MountainDevil54 11-10-2009 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by saxman1 (Post 3501007)
Say it with me
I DON'T need a new ML
I DON'T need a new ML
I DON'T need a new ML

Oh well,it don't work for me either

im going through that right now. I want a new .54 hawken and im eying the accura and thinking up prices. I couldnt do it yet though LOL. I want to shoot something with it!


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