Ever lost a deer to coyotes??
 

I see on some of the hunting shows that people wait til the next morning to look for their deer, especially bow hunters. Around here if you waited til morning to look for a deer all you would find would be a half eaten deer. Anybody ever lose a deer to coyotes that way?

I have been lucky. We have wolves and coyotes around here, but I never lost a deer to one. I have found deer that the wolves and coyotes recovered for someone.

i did 3 years ago and i didn't wait till morning. on the particular afternoon my wife wanted to go with me, so at about sundown i shot a nice doe. it was a long ways back to the truck so my wife wanted to go home since it was late and i could return for the doe. i came back with a flashlight and found her about 75yds. from where i shot her, but so did the coyotes about 6-8 of them. when i walked up on them i was a little nervous cause i left my gun at home. i hollered at them they turned and growled and snarled at me, a few ran but most stayed so i lost my doe because of them. i have killed several turkey hunting when i was calling and they thought they would get a turkey dinner but instead they got lead poisning.

I haven't, but I found a deer carcass that had been shot and obvious scavenged by coyote. Wasn't very pretty. This deer was probably the victim of the road poachers that seem to be so common in the area I was hunting. :(

Mike

I haven't thankfully, though this year I have spoken to tow guys that have lost deer to wolves the same day as the kill.

I lost one a few years ago during archery season. I hit a spike buck one evening and waited a half hour before starting to trail. What I was sure was a good hit. After about 100 yds, I saw it jump up and run off so I backed out. The next morning I picked up the trail and found 1/2 of him within 75 yds of where I jumped him. Both hind quarters were gone and most of the backstrap on one side. I left him for the coyotes to finish off. Not much else I could do.

I have and so have a few of my Friends. And it's usually during Archery Season. Even on a good hit we usually will give the deer at least an hour befor we go looking, unless we see the deer go down. Where we hunt there's a-lot of Red Brush and real thick blow downs so we dont want to push a deer into this stuff because we'd risk the chance of never finding it.
We never let the deer sit over night unless we see that the hit was a bad one, (Gut-shot, Liver, to high, to low) it happens to the best of us, and we pray overnight that the coyotes dont find a wounded deer. But even after we have waited a hour we have found the deer's hind quarters eaten by Coyotes, and it sucks to find that!
We have a-lot of coyotes around here and we usually take a bunch during gun season, and after the season, there's no limit on coyotes and they can be taken any time day or night (Oct 1st-March 28th) WE HATE COYOTES!!!!! Tonight while I was in My Archery stand I heard them Howling ans saw 2, and as I write this they are howling accross the street in my woods, there everywhere! and we have some BIG ones, 70lbs+++
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I might loose one to some dogs this year. I went by the field my stand sits on. One of the three dogs that scared the 11 point io had a shot on was standing by the field. LEt it walk by me when i have a muzzy in my hand. I hate to shoot a dog but i doubt i will be able to let them scare another 11 point off.

I'm surprised you have a limited season for coyote. Here coyote are legal year round, with no restrictions on shooting hours or bag limits. All you have to have is a valid small game hunting license and you're good.

I'm betting that the 70+ pounders you speak of aren't coyotes, but probably feral dogs, but they are as much of a problem just the same.

Mike

Yes we should be able to hunt them buggers all year round here, with all the pets (small dogs, cats) being eaten by them, eventually they will give in and we'll be able to.
And I know mabey a 70+ Lb Coyote is hard for you to imagine, but there taken here all the time, and I also have taken one. I have the hide tanned fom the one I got and if some one wants to put the picture on here I'll e-mail it to you and you can for me.
Im 6'6" tall and me holding the tanned hide will show you just how big they get here. I'd post the pic myself but I still have to get with sabotloader so he can walk me through the steps.
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Considering that the average weight of a male coyote is about 35 lbs, you can certainly understand why I'd be skeptical of any claim of abnormally large coyote being somewhat common. Feral dogs, after several generations of crossbreeding, often begin to assume features of wolves all the breeds are derived from, so if there is a well established population of multi-generation feral dogs they might be confused with their wild cousins. There are distinct differences between dogs/wolves and coyote, but to be sure you'd have to have a necropsy done.

But until proven otherwise, I'll take your word for it that what you have was a true coyote.

Mike

on a caribou hunt years ago the guides had to leave some in the bush overnight. they would tie dirty socks to the caribou. the wolves didnt like the human scent i guess.

It's not the yotes here but the wild hogs.
I sot a small doe last season and just took out the shoulders,hams and backstraps.
When I went back the next morning the rest of the deer all but the head had been eaten to the bone.
It was less than 12 hours

I understand you being skeptable Mike, but there's no feral dogs around here. Some of these damn Coyotes are so big around here that I've passed on them thinking they were someones pet dog. I still have to make really sure there a coyote befor I shoot one, and most of the time they get away as Im still trying to be sure there a coyote and miss on my opporitunity for a shot. As soon as my wife gets home from work I'll have her take a pic of the one I got. It measures 65" from nose tip to tail tip. That's a 5'5" Coyote
(BP)

Bow hunters lose many here, and elk too. Have tracked up a lot of wounded deer for folks: If the deer is not recovered the evening that it is shot, there is about a 75 percent chance that the coyotes will get it. Sometimes the hogs beat the coyotes to the carcass. i will sometimes set up on a deer carcass and zap some coyotes as they come in.

There are some abnormally large coyotes at our place in south central OK. Some easliy go 75 pounds. Some folks claim that those large coyotes have red wolf blood. Methinks they may be coydogs.

They might be full blood coyote but they might be cross breed coyote dog (Coydogs). It is fairly common for them to cross breed if the occasion exists. I had a cross breed Coyote,Husky that was one of the best dogs I ever owned. Extremely smart and taught me that Coyotes can scale a fence so high it would make you wonder. Mine could clear a six foot fence without touching it. She still could clear them when she was 12 years old but had to put her feet on it near the top to finish the jump. I doubt that she weighed more than 55 pounds though.

Thats a great idea.
I'll have to try that for Hogs

If some one wants to PM me and give me there e-mail address I'll send them a few pics I jus took of the Coyote in question, so they can post them for me on here. I took the pics with My Black Lab next to the Coyote hide, my lab weighs 90lbs, so this is a good comparison to show how big the get.
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I wanted to do that once a couple years back at my aunt and uncles place. They have a lot of coyotes around there, and you can hear them howling most every evening. I took my ML to hunt deer, but I also brought my .22-250. The plan was that if I shot a deer with the ML, I'd then set up over the gut pile with the .22-250 and see if I could nail a coyote or two. But I didn't get a deer that year so that plan didn't work out. :s7:

Mike

Many years ago, I was bowhunting in the next county south of where I now sit. I was trying to do some stalk hunting (which I was pretty good at back then). I eased out of the woods to see three large yotes eating a deer which they had obviously just taken down.

They didn't see me at first, so I started directly toward them thinking to put an arrow in one of them. The had at first been about 50 yards away and I perhaps made 5 yards toward them before they spotted me. I figured they would bolt away at the sight of me as most every other coyote I had ever encountered would have done.

But NOOOOOO!... those big boys got side by side between me and their kill and started advancing toward ME! I shouted, no effect. They were snarling and growling as if I was going to be desert.

I turned a left the opening, back into the timber from which I came, while keeping an eye over my shoulder. They didn't follow, thankfully. That old recurve didn't seem like much of a weapon all of a sudden.

Never before and never since have I seen coyotes act so fearlessly and aggressively. Put the hair on the back of my head at attention!

Did you guys read of that young woman being attacked by two coyotes in Canada just recently. She died shortly afterward from her wounds. KILL THEM ALL!

Too bad you didn't have an AR instead of a recurve, the world would have been minus 3 aggressive coyotes, and a little better place. Coyote attack people all the time in California. The envirocommies have made it hard to control their population, and because of the lack of human predation the yotes have become very bold. I've found many stories of hikers and joggers attacked by coyotes, some fatally, but the worst is that there has been a rash of toddler and preschool aged kids attacked on playgrounds and killed before the parents or caregivers had any chance to intervene.

And to think that the same enviro-whackos want to reintroduce large packs of wolves near human inhabited areas, because the coyotes, apparently, aren't dangerous enough.

Mike

Coy-dogs run in packs like wolves and are more aggressive toward people than wolves, they also get quite a bit bigger than a coyote while looking just like them most of the time. I believe it has to do with dominate genes. Lee

Breechplug's pics.

That is a big coyote skin you have there. And nice too. Also that old dog of yours reminds me so much of my old dog. Beautiful dog there you got.

Lee, a regular coyote is a derned vicious animal not to be taken for granted. I don't think the ones I encountered were mixed... they had just been eating a lot of good vension.

I also think they kill far more deer than most people would believe.

Yep, that's a coyote, or if it's a hybrid, it's mostly coyote. Big SOB, too. Glad he hanging from your wall and from my 2 year olds throat.

Mike

Thank's for posting the pics UC. Again, the coyote measures 65" from tip of the nose to tip of the tail, 5'5" total length. My Black Lab weighs 90lbs. Im 6'6" tall. This is the best I can do for proving how big they get as I did'nt take any pics of the coyote when I got him. If anyone see's a resemblance to (coydogs) let me know. As far as I know there just full bred coyotes.
(BP)

Thank's cayugad, I love em, he'll be 8 on Dec 25th. Since he was born on Christmas, the holy day, the sabbath, we named him Sabbath. He posed for the pic knowing he's get a biscut. He's still a great Duck Getter, old age has'nt slowed him down yet.
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So is he bigger than you expected? When I get some pics of the bigger ones taken this season I'll get them posted. Every year here we hear stories of packs of coyotes surrounding hunters in there tree stands, killing peoples pets and attacking people. Our problem is there is'nt enough hunters hunting them, they grow big and eat the crap out of our deer and turkeys. I'd kill more of em but they show up at the wrong times, at first light when the deer are moving to there bedding grounds, or at last light when the deer are comming out into the corn and soybean fields, so we dont shoot to avoid spooking the deer.
But when we get sick enough of seeing too many and cant take it anymore we let em have it!
(BP)

we have HUGE yote's in new york,heck there almost as big as our TAXES........karl

That yote is good sized. I had the opportunity to take a white one during our deer season but a doe appeared and I shot her instead. The pack around where I hunt are chasing the turkeys and we need to clear out the herd. Some big ones that size, and we also have to make sure that they are not dogs as we can be prosecuted for killing dogs during gun season now in Missouri. Years past we could kill dogs, we never seen any on the property but neighbors were killing them as they were chasing deer.

Nice timing.

Last Saturday afternoon I was bowhunting in Michigan. I was hunting on some private land where the owner will only allow me to shoot does. About 15 minutes before sunset two nice does come by me at about 15 yards. I take the smaller 1 1/2 year old doe when she is slightly quartering away at 15 yards. Perfect heart shot.

I ride back to the owners house and unload my ATV to drag it back. Total turn around time was only 45 minutes from the time I shot it till I found it. The coyotes already ate 1 1/2 to 2 lbs of meat from the hindquarters.

When the deer were eating acorns they kept looking down toward the swamp every couple seconds. While on stand I thought they were waiting for a trailing buck....now I think it was coyotes that had their attention.

There's a (All Black Coyote) on a pice of property we Hunt and I've been trying for this one for 2 years now, he's a Beauty. He always seems to be just out or range when I see him. Some of my buddies have had shots at him but he always manages to escape any bullets. I hate to say this but I hope he survived last winter.
(BP)

One friend found youtes on a deer he had just shot with his bow minutes before. It no longer happens because we shoot the youtes every chance we get. When the season is closed for every thing else we pull out our calls and home made E callers (Varmit Al's web site has plans) and here(http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...ic.php?t=20626). we hunt them egressively. The population has been thined so much that places where we used to shoot 6 or 7 a year we don't even hear tham any more.
If your not into saving the hides a ML works great. Most of us use 22 center fires or 243-6MM rifles. Of course there are the ones who like to be close and personal so use shot guns and #4 buck. A lot of places here in Michigan has tournaments.
there is also the 3 S method.

:D Al

Breechplug, I hear you loud and clear, if i see the white ghost he's mine. The only problem is with a 50 cal bullet that hide can get messed up a bit.