bore butter.
 

What is bore butter and do i need some for the triumph. Also whats the deal with using water to clean the barrel. My plan was just clean it and lube it like a rifle. Solvent down then wipe if clean then some gun oil wipe dry is that a bad idea for a triumph. I plan on using sabot shockwaves and T7 pellets. or maybe pro pellets.

Bore Butter, Wonder Lube, Wonder Lube 1000... all the same thing basically is a wax compound possibly sold, at least endorsed by Thompson Center I believe. It is a barrel treatment they claim. Remember the old term of seasoning metal. Seasoning your Grandma's fry pan. That's where you let a coating of oils build up on the metal. That acts as a no stick surface. Great for fry pans, lousy for firearms.

In the old days, when metals were not what they are today, the inside of the barrel was allowed to season. This was so the old black powder would not stick to it as much, it cleaned up easier, and kept the barrel from rusting. That is hardly the case today with all the barrel treatment products and gun oil out there on the market.

Bore Butter is also used as a conical lube, and a patch lube when shooting ball. It works real good there. People who protect the inside of their rifle barrels with Bore Butter are technically waxing the barrel. Like your car. No water, no oxygen or air on the metal surface... No rust. The problem with Bore Butter used like that is, if you apply it wrong, and that is easy to do, your going to have rust in your barrel.

Your triumph is high quality steel. You should treat it as such. As for the water to clean with. Water is still in a lot of cases the best cleaner for a muzzle loader. You flush the fouling out of the bore. Also many products will clean up with just water. But you must dry the bore of the barrel before you apply your coating of gun oil. Many do this by running a alcohol patch through them, then some dry patches. Others run a WD-40 patch which also displaces water (hence WD).

The main thing is bore butter will not help your rifle. You can clean it with solvent if you wish to spend the money. I use a simple house hold cleaner like dish soap water, 409, Simple Green, Windex, alcohol, and leave the solvent to remove lead, plastic, and copper build up from time to time.

Use what ever you feel comfortable using.

Bore butter is a bullet lubricant for conicals, that some guys use as a protective coating when the gun is being stored. I used to use it for storage, but now I just use regular gun oil. Soapy water is popular for cleaning black powder as it easily removes the crud, but most people shooting inlines just use solvent-dampened patches. I make my own with patches soaked in BP solvent, and then I squeeze out most of the solvent so they're just moist. Don't forget the breech plug and the threads inside the barrel.

I no longer use it in any of my muzzy's

Can bore butter be used on the breech plug? My Dad has always used it and I wondered if it was the correct thing or not.

I see Kind of what i thought. PRoperly stay with solvent. Do not want a mistake to cost me a 500 gun. SO gun lube it is

After doing research here and other places i ditched the bore butter last yr as well..

I use a 50/50 mix of alcohol and windshield washer fluid for my wet patches.. It seems to clean very well.. For storage I put some CLP on a patch and run it thru the bore

Brian

I thought you really wanted a 'anti-seize' product for the breech plug..
but as long as you can still remove the breech plug its must be working

brian

I use to use Wonder Lube until I wised up.

how do i get all the butter out of my inline if i cant get anything to flow through the barrel, the spot for my percussion caps is kepping it from flowing through.

use rubbing alcohol on your patches.. It will cut the bore butter..

Brian

take the barrel off and run boiling water through the barrel it wil cut the wax build up.
Keep going till it comes out clean.
Don't grab the barrel with your hand though (how did I know that)

I have used TC Bore Butter for years and never had a problem with it. Mabey because I only used it after I cleaned my barrel. I'd run a patch of bore butter down the barrel then load it for the Hunt. If I shot, I cleaned the barrel with hot soappy water and reloaded again with the same procedure as above.
I also use a small amount of it on the breech plug threads and even coat the outside of the barrel with it, it seemed to protect it from rain and snow.
I guess if you use bore butter as a swab between shots and dont clean that often it would be a problem, but for me it never has been.
Last winter I changed to Montana X-Treme Bore Conditioner and their Gun Oil, not because I disliked Bore Butter but because I just wanted to try it out. So far no problems with it. Also when I used Bore Butter and after a Hot Water Clean my Barrels were always Shinny Clean with NO build up as others speak of. Whatever works for you is what you should use.
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I'd try a harsh solvent like Montana and a bronze bore brush. Just scrub the hell out of it until it comes clean.

I use it on all my 3 BP Rifles and also on my BP pistol. Never had a problem with it. Apply a small amount to a cotton brush and run it up and down the barrel several times.

What you use to clean your barrel depends on the powder you use. Triple Seven is an ascorbic acid-based powder, so the residue left in your barrel is water soluble. I have used it since it came out, warm water patches followed by dry ones and a lightly oiled one is all that is required. I have never had ANY corrosion in my barrels.

Pyrodex or BP is not as water soluble, which is why people add things to help get the fouling out. Pellets of all kinds also have some real BP on the base to help them ignite so even Triple Seven pellets may require cleaning like it's BP to get it all out.

BH209 seems to be a nitrocellulose-based powder like modern smokeless. So you use similar solvents.

I have used it for 3-4 years for my TC Omega, per the instructions on the CD that came with the rifle. Never had a problem. Shoot > wet patch > dry patch > reload and repeat. Then when finished and barrel is clean...run 1 or 2 bore butter patches through for storage. Remove BB with wet and dry patch and you are ready to shoot again. Rem oil, or any other high quality oil would be just fine, or even perhaps better. However, my barrel is clean as a whistle (no rust) and is very accurate with 2 50's and 250 SW. All I have done is follow directions per that CD. Has worked thus far and don't see any reason to complicate things.

i copied and pasted this from the internet [thought i'd share it with you ]


The snake oil "Bore Butter" concoctions of various animal fats and wax are better off left where they came from--the pot of rotting miscellaneous flesh and animal carcasses bubbling at your local rendering plant. The idea that your modern steel barrel can be seasoned like a cast iron skillet has no basis unless your barrel is also cast iron and you cook pizzas in it regularly. Some of the earlier lubricants were outstanding, like sperm whale oil. Bear grease and bacon drippings were never good, but when that's all you have, that's the best you can do.

I never thought about cooking a pizza inside the barrel...hmmm