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Hi Guys complete greenhorn when it comes to Muzzleloaders. I want to stay around or under $400. I want the very best bang for the buck. Needs to be simple but most of the new ones seem to be that for cleaning. Accurate and user friendly. TC Z5 kit on sale at Cabelas for $339 or the Triumph for $399 on sale. Is there something else that would be better for the price? No scope will be going on it so I need good open sights. What about the Traditions or CVA? I don't completely trust Cabelas or Gander Mountain to give me a honest answer. Just keep it simple and let me know what you would recommend not because you have one, but because you think it would be the best for a first time muzzleloader hunter. Thanks!

It appears you want an inline, so I would look at the Triumph or the CVA Accura. Other then that, none of the new ones even interest me.

CVA Accura in stainless with black fleck stock. Also buy a good range rod while you are ordering. http://www.rrarms.com/catalog.php?prod=PR3100S

or buy my extra Accura if you prefer the ss/camo stock. I wouldn't sell it but I just bought a CVA Apex and have another Accura (ss/black).

the triumph is a great choice.the knight vision from sportsmans guide is another and it's only 200.00$......karl

Knight is out of business. Great gun by all stories.

Knight Disc Extreme $178.00 New in Box - on Gun Broker Excellent Rifle Fantastic deal Great open sights Feels like Centerfire Rifle to the shoulder !

I would go and shoulder a few before you decide for sure. I really like the triumph, but it was designed for a scope and when I've shouldered it I didn't think it felt that great. Where are you at in MN?

[quote=SuperKirby;3465922]I would go and shoulder a few before you decide for sure. I really like the triumph, but it was designed for a scope and when I've shouldered it I didn't think it felt that great.


Exactly right. It's not a good fit without a scope.

Im in the Annandale area just west of the Twin Cities.

I suggest you try shouldering the Triumph it is very good for the price and for accuracy there is nothing better, The one thing you might want to consider is that the high comb is designed for use of a scope. The Omega is best for iron sights and some states have laws requiring them.
Should always check the laws which you will be hunting under some states have laws that relate to politicians misconceptions rather than whats actually needed.
As far as Knight is concerned they are going cheap because the company has shut down, unless some one buys and restarts it there will come a time when you might not be able to get what you need. I sold the only one I had to a friend thats been borrowing it.

Another pitch for the CVA Accura. I don't have one but if I were to buy another muzzleloader (have several now) I would go with the Accura. The one UC has for sale would be a good choice. In great shape but already broken in which usually takes several shots to accomplish. If I had the money now I would buy that one.

Tribal,

Since you state you need your ML to shoot with open sights, the Triumph may not work for you. It does come with stock open sights but if you plan on putting on a rear peep or ghost ring sight (do a search on this forum), as already stated, the comb of the Triumph stock makes it difficult for most to get their head down far enough to use the open sights.

I was in the exact same position as you about six months ago - price around $400 max, open sights. FWIW, I settled on the Omega X7 and have no regrets. Stainless barrel, laminate stock, rear peep sight included.

That Accura looks pretty good though.

T/C Omega. Hard to ask for a better value.

+1 on an omega.

Tribal

I have two Omegas and they are awesome guns - BUT if you have time to wait a bit TC may release a new model Omega that will come with a Speed Breech and will be built lighter on the Triumph weight scale. If they do that i would be selling my Triumph and getting a new Omega especially if it come in stainless.

Then if you want a less expensive model wait a bit longer and CVA will offer a copy of the new gun.

There are some excellent buys on Knight DISC's right now also. This is number one quality gun - but as you probably know Knight has suspended manufacturing at this time. parts and warranty work still continues.... These $400+ dollar guns can be had for $200 and less now.

Get the Accura from CVA. You wont be sorry!

Thanks so much for all of your replies. I know it can sound like a broken record sometimes with guys asking the same thing. But it is important enough to me where I wanted a direct answer. Cabelas a short drive from my house has the CVA's on sale stainless for just over $300 and I like the way they look. I will be going this evening to shoulder a few and see what I like. Underclocked curious what would you ask for your extra Accura? PM me if you would please. It would be something I consider depending on total cost. Thanks!

Tribal

Get there in a hurry...

http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/ph...=111271#111271

Mine is stainless/camo and is in mint condition. Would include steel two piece scope bases already installed and would reinstall the factory iron sights if you like. They would be included in the box along with all factory accessories in any event. 325 plus 20 for shipping to you.