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Whitetailaddict13 09-23-2009 06:15 PM

I need a scope!
 
Hey guys I'm looking for a scope for my new muzzleloader.. Doesn't have to be anything real special i am not being picky, 3-9x40, fixed power, its all good! I dont have any money to spare right now but i have a Nike Bauer Vapor 40x hockey stick for trade, hardly used at all. As well as lacrosse equip. I know it may sound rediculous, but you never know! Any feedback would be awesome.

SWThomas 09-24-2009 05:51 AM

Personally, I would go with either a Nikon Omega or a Leupold Ultimate Slam. Some like to skimp on optics but I don't.

unklechuckles19 09-24-2009 06:08 AM

I just purchased a Burris Fulfield II for my new Savage .308. I love it. Scope itself was $199.99 at Cabelas, but Burris had a deal going for an extra $20 bucks you get a rimfire scope too, so I jumped on that. $219.99 for two Burris scopes, I didn't think it was all that bad of a deal.

lemoyne 09-24-2009 06:11 AM

Be a little careful, I have had some scopes that were good on a high powered rifle that did not stand up to the different kind of recoil that a muzzle loader produces.
I would suggest a scope that is designed for muzzle loader use. Lee

spaniel 09-24-2009 06:36 AM

I'm not one to recommend going cheap, you usually end up paying for it. However, if you are talking of selling a hockey stick I don't think expecting you to buy a $200 scope is realistic.

This first scope I ever owned, which sat on the first inline ML I ever owned, was a 3-9X40 Bushnell. Bare bones basic, I think it cost $40-$60 and wouldn't be much more than that now. I killed a lot of deer with that scope....and it's still out there now, more than ten years later, killing deer in the hands of a friend's little brother.

I will admit that my current go-to ML is topped by a Barska Tactical that cost a tad under $200, an has performed flawlessly despite admittedly cheap lenses. My old scope ($150) crapped out after 5 years of heavy use at an inopportune time financially (just bought house, had kid, and wife wasn't working).

I figured I'd replace it when it crapped out, but darned if it isn't doing fine. Search the forum for "500 yards" and you'll see how bad a cheap scope can shoot ;)

cayugad 09-24-2009 06:49 AM

I mounted a simple Bushnell Banner Dusk to Dawn 1.5-4.5x32mm on my Black Diamond XR with some Woods Trophy Mounts ( you can get any cheaper then that set up ). It has excellent light gathering ability, great clarity, and had not moved a bit in five years of pounding.

I was hunting a friends farm and he walked down to the blind to sit with me. He then looked through my scope and was commenting on what a great scope it was. When I told him the price, he refused to believe it. I hunted that night to the very last minute of season. Even when I could not see through the binoculars into the woods, I was still able to watch a nice buck (it was doe only) standing in the woods watching the field. Through that scope, I could have shot.

I have two other scopes on muzzleloaders and they are even less expensive. One is a Simmons Pro Diamond 4x32mm. This was a $39.00 scope. I bought it because Semisane was bragging about one, and I was determined to get one and break it. Well I liked it so much I bought two more for other rifles.

I also have a Simmons Pro 2.5x20mm on a Wolverine. Again, this one was $19.00 (Natchess.com). I was sure this one would not last. I shot the Wolverine last week and it is still dead on from last year with this scope. Simmons scopes are very clear, and gather light real well.

If you want a scope that will hold for you until you can save lots of money for a big dollar scope, and then when you can affford it wonder why you need it, you might look into these mentioned.

Semisane 09-24-2009 08:05 AM

Get yourself a ProDiamond here. http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...TOKEN=64810432

It will do everything that needs to be done for muzzleloader hunting. You may want to upgrade it one day - but probably not.

DannyD 09-24-2009 09:23 AM

Man, i've been away from Hockey for so long.
When i was playing it was Bauer and CCM only. Blades, sticks, helmets, pads etc

Did NIKE buy Bauer?

When i played Lacrosse (grew up on Long Island) it was all STX and Brine. Has that changed too?

As far as a scope. A Nikon Prostaff 2-7x32 can be had for $129. Very nice scope
I also have a cheap Bushnell 3-9-32 on my muzzy. I believe i got this for less than $50 at wallyworld. It has held up for a few seasons now.

BOWHUNTERCOP 09-24-2009 12:33 PM

look into the Nikon Buckmaster scope in 3-9x40

Whitetailaddict13 09-24-2009 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by DannyD (Post 3452376)
Man, i've been away from Hockey for so long.
When i was playing it was Bauer and CCM only. Blades, sticks, helmets, pads etc

Did NIKE buy Bauer?

When i played Lacrosse (grew up on Long Island) it was all STX and Brine. Has that changed too?

As far as a scope. A Nikon Prostaff 2-7x32 can be had for $129. Very nice scope
I also have a cheap Bushnell 3-9-32 on my muzzy. I believe i got this for less than $50 at wallyworld. It has held up for a few seasons now.



Nike and bauer teamed up and yeah those brands are still big as well. Stx and brine are still big frontrunners but warrior has made a big nae as well.

Whitetailaddict13 09-24-2009 04:36 PM

Thanks for all the insight guys! Ill have to have a look at some of these. And spaniel obviously you dont play hockey cause the price of the hockey stick alone well exceeds 200 dollars;p

SWThomas 09-25-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by BOWHUNTERCOP (Post 3452596)
look into the Nikon Buckmaster scope in 3-9x40

That's a good scope. I have a 4.5-14X40 on my Rem 700. But IMO those scopes don't have enough eye relief for a muzzleloader. I barely get enough with my 700.

lonewolf5348 09-25-2009 02:45 AM

http://www.natchezss.com/Optics.cfm?...dTitle=Simmons ProHunter 6x40mm Rifle Scope Matte Truplex Reticle
My son just purchased this simmons 6x for a cva optima so far the scope is excellent set up for any BP Rifle.
The scope has a great eye relief 4.25 works nice on that longer stock that comes on the camo optima.

hometheaterman 09-25-2009 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by unklechuckles19 (Post 3452166)
I just purchased a Burris Fulfield II for my new Savage .308. I love it. Scope itself was $199.99 at Cabelas, but Burris had a deal going for an extra $20 bucks you get a rimfire scope too, so I jumped on that. $219.99 for two Burris scopes, I didn't think it was all that bad of a deal.

Yeah I have a Burris Fullfield II also and I have to say I love this thing. I also have a Leupold VX-I and it's my least favorite of the scopes I've used Simmons and Tasco included. It's been sent back to Leupold 2 times for repair in it's 2 years of use. I've had it about 2 and a half now but it hasn't been used much recently. It's clear enough but no clearer looking to me than the Tasco I've used. A few friends looked through both when I got it and said the Tasco looked clearer to them however, I couldn't tell a difference. It seems to lose zero too easily for me. I just don't like it.

Then I picked up the Burris Fullfield II to replace it. I got it for $200 at Dicks Sporting Goods last year with a free Garmin eTrex GPS. It's super clear. I never had a problem with the clarity of any of the scopes but after looking through the Leupold and then through this this one just looks amazing. It does really well to me in low light. I could see things in low light looking through it I couldn't see with my eye. Seems to have held up and held zero throughout last hunting season. Since then I haven't used it much but last time I shot it it was still sighted in. Overall, I haven't quite had it a year so can't comment on how it will last but so far I love it. I like it way better than the Leupold I had and it was cheaper too.

That being said if you need a cheaper scope I've also used a Simmons 3x9x32 on a .22 rifle that was great. Not quite as clear as the Burris to me but clear enough. Not sure that it was as good in low light but I never used it in low light anyway. It shot great and took a ton of abuse and was always still dead on. This may just be my favorite scope. It's hard to tell between the Burris and this. This one was a lot cheaper and I've used it for 5 years or so. The Burris seems clearer but also cost a lot more and I've only used it for not quite a year so I can't comment on how it will be in 5 years. It also hasn't taken nearly the abuse this Simmons has.

Then I've used a Tasco 3x9x40mm that was like $30 or something at Wal-Mart. I never had any problems with this either. Always seemed to hold zero and honestly I liked it better than the Leupold I used. I'm not sure how this thing would hold up over time but I've got buddies that use them and like them too. This is another cheap alternative.

burntmuch 09-25-2009 11:57 AM

Burris has the ''Timberline" line. Fixed power or varible. 4 power or 1x4. I think it replace the shortmag line. $150 or so. Ive owned a few Burris scopes. Theyve never disipointed me.

LaneNebraska 09-25-2009 01:09 PM

Here is a GREAT scope, I got for my Varmint rifle. But would work well for a Muzzy:

http://swfa.com/Mueller-4-16x50-Spor...ope-P9135.aspx





For about 200 clams, this is excellent! And the German #4 Retical-Illuminated Dot is SOooo Sweet:):cool2:


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