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Some times it can be a wide range of choices, I have not found any combination yet that won't shoot under 2.5 inches with my new Endeavor. So far the Lehigh 200gr @ about 2400 feet per second is the only one that shoots under an inch most loads so far will consistently group between 1 .1 and 1.4 and while the Triumph will shoot certain bullets better it is a lot fussier because it either shoots them real good or all over. I like having a wide range of choices and a consistent grouping under 1.5" is not a problem to me for hunting at any range I will shoot at a live animal at. Lee