CVA Product Liability/Injury Cases
 

Just found this in the web today.Many of these cases are the older CVA "recall" guns but some are newer guns. Will continue to use my CVA guns with moderate charges of powder.


http://www.cvaguncases.com/

RE: CVA Product Liability/Injury Cases
 

Thanks Falcon, I just checked, my CVA Wolf is of the 05 model year.

RE: CVA Product Liability/Injury Cases
 

I don't have a cva newer than 99.But when i ordered the 209 kit for my staghorn they did make me tell them the serial # first,
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before they sold it to me.Great info falcon.

RE: CVA Product Liability/Injury Cases
 

A very helpful site.

The site has a page that lists thelawsuits against other muzzleloaders manufacturers. I looked at the links for Knight, andseveral lawsuits are listed. All the lawsuits against Knight are for patent infringement or trademark infringement. None of the lawsuits against Knight are for personal injury.

I like CVA; I think they make good arms, great value. I'm on my 2nd one.

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I am not bashing anyone but not all lawsuits are just. I was doing a Google search for another reason and came across this lawsuit against Knight. A guy mistakenly stored his loaded rifle in his house with the plunger against the primer. He is preparing to go out hunting and he realizes his mistake, does not have the secondary safety on, pulls back the plunger while pointing the loaded rifle at his hunting buddy. The plunger slips from his hand and the rifle goes off shooting his buddy in the leg. He turns around to sue Knight because they did not specifically warn him that this could happen. You decide who is at fault.

http://www.ai.org/judiciary/opinions...2310701ewn.pdf

Reading case law can be very misleading. Many times law suits are not settled for reasons of guilt but instead reasons of cost effectiveness. Always keep that in mind.

Now I am not overlooking the reports of CVA rifles failing. Any time a rifle fails and someone is injured, this is tragic. I would never make light of that. I have owned a CVA for many years (2003) and shot thousands of rounds out if it. Am I just lucky or is this a time bomb ticking? I really do not know the answer to that. Am I going to keep shooting it? Yes I guess I am.

If you have any doubts of the integrity of your rifle, I strongly urge you not to shoot it. If these reports you read give you reason for doubt, sell the rifle and get one you are comfortable with. If you abuse your rifle, then keep that in mind. If you are one that likes to push more in a load then a recommended manufacturer charge, you are playing with fire.

If you maintain your rifle, use manufacturer recommend loads, and are comfortable with the quality, you should have a rifle that serves you well.

if people would concentrate more when they are loading they're ML on the range .most of these accidents would not happen ..DOUBLE LOADING your ML [any make] will produce a "PIPE BOMB" ...this spring we had an accident on the range the shooter was very lucky he only lost the tip of his right hand thumb ...he double loaded his ML ..i will not mention the make of the ML .because it was not defective.

Well, if that's the story... then it is clearly OPERATOR ERROR, and not Knight's fault in the least.

I sometimes leave my muzzleloader loaded for a couple/few days, in decent weather - leave it in the car, to avoid condensation! - but never, never leave a primer in the breech plug. It doesn't get a primer until I am ready to walk into the woods, and the primer comes off when I get back to the car. And though I have considered doing it... I DO NOT like the idea of lowering plunger onto a primer. Very bad idea, just thinking about it. What if you drop it, smacks handle? All sorts of potential for bad things, there.

Take the damned primer off. Easy.

I see this CVA thingy just gets rehashed and rehashed. I own two BPI SS rifles which I feel completely safe to use. Sweet shooters and will be taking one of them instead of a high powered rifle on this Saturday's Colorado 3rd season Mule Deer Hunt. Wish me luck. (And wish me a fresh snow for opening morning) :-)

I noticed Cayugad suggested to someone wanting to shoot 300 yards to consider maybe stalking the game to a closer range. That's my approach. I use between 70 and 100 grains depending on the projectile.

With 150 grains, one should be very careful about loading. The potential for failure exists with any rifle as the prior poster mentioned. Hey guys, these firearms can only be as safe as folks operating them. Happy hunting and gut one out your next hunt.

Pglasgow

If you dont like CVA than dont shoot one, simple as that. But why must everyone keep bashing CVA ML's. Sure the OLD CVA had some problems, but the new CVA has come a long way. I have owned mostly CVA ML's for the last 20 years, with the execption of 2 TC's and a DIXIE GUN WORKS 50Cal Poor Boy. And I have never had a problem with any of the CVA's. Some of the cheapest CVA's I had (Staghorn & Staghorn Magnum) $99 ML's were as accurate as any of my buddies higher priced TC's and I killed just as many if not more deer with them as they did with there's. And I now own 2 CVA ACCURA's and I would'nt trade them for anyother ML out there.
If more people would learn how to handle a ML and would'nt do stupid things, these law suits would'nt happen. Im not saying CVA is perfect, no ML is. It comes down to who is using it and what they do when there using it. Be careful, do what your suppos-to and you should be fine. But dont blame your mistakes on the MLer if something should go wrong. That's why all ML's Companies put in BIG RED LETTERS (WARNING) in the owners manuals, there there for a reason.
I live in a Big Hunting Community and as long as I have Hunted I have never ever heard of anyone being injured by a MLer where I live, and there's a-lot of us ML Hunters here. I know &$#! Happens, but you got to wonder to what people this is actually happening to. ALL MLers are Dangerous, so be careful, do what your expected to do with one and do it right, and all should be fine. If you dont feel comfortable using a ML than dont.
I hope nothing ever happens bad to anyone using a MLer, and I wish everyone a Safe and Happy Hunting Season, but Please quit picking on CVA, has anyone heard of a Bergara ML Barrel exploding? CVA now uses them on there better ML's, you get what you pay for.If you have an older CVA and it's one of the one's on recall, exchange it for a newer one, free of charge, there the old CVA Companies MLers. And if you still have an old relic mabey it's time to get a new one.
A MLer is simple, a fireing pin and a barrel, if the barrel is a good make than it should be a good MLer, but when you load it wrong, double load it, short load it or plug the end with dirt, your gonna be in trouble no matter wich ML you shoot.
Ron

I think the issue is that folks are afraid of spanish barrels and proofing etc.. We all have heard that song and dance before. Both CVA and Traditions have come along way, some models are using stainless barrels now. I shoot all Traditions guns and a Knight TK 2000 as long as you follow the loads and take care of the guns they will last longer than you will. Most lawsuits are misuse or ignorance for not checking your gear and replacing worn parts. Take care of your stuff and it will take care of you when that big one comes by.

Its kinda crazy what people will do , i met two guys in the last seek who shot their ramrods and another who blew up his side lock , he said it was his fault, he left a a air pockets between his powder and bullets . Today i was helping a friend sight in his Omega . he has shot it very little , didn't know you should clean it between shots ( using 777 ) and as i watched him seat the bullet i asked if he had gone all the way down , he said he had , but he had way too much ramrod showing . I took his ramrod and but it next to his barrel , he had a least a 2' air pocket . so i took the ramrod and pushed a little harder and felt it seat against the pellets . I then marked his ramrod ( his was not ) . I explained to him what could have happened if he had shot that gun and how he should have marked his ram rod , Thats when he told me his other one had been marked but this was a newer one . I then asked if he had shot other one , he said he had , i then asked if the gun had been shot since , it had . So he shot a ramrod ( 3rd person this week ) and today he almost shot it with a air pocket . So crap happens way too often !!!