I have tried quite a number of moose milk recipes and found some of them that worked quite well for cleaning, some of them also work ok on the range if you shoot them right away. Problem I ran into when I tested them over night for huntingis that all but the wax and olive oil and bore butter open up the group. I think mm tends to get into the powder when left set any length of time. Lee

I have experimented with different lubes for years. My favorite lube for a hunting load is bear grease. I heat it just enough to melt the grease and dip strips of pillow ticking in it then roll them up and squeeze out the excess. Purehog lard would probably work just as well but not bacon grease because of the salt.

At the range I have found that olive oil and water 50/50 mix works well but must be shook up each time you use it because the oil and water will seperate in the bottle.

I cut my patches at the muzzle with a sharp knife.

Thanks for the input guys. Seems as though olive oil will be the cheapest route. I can pick a bottle of that up for $1 at the dollar store.

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Here is a link to both Moose Milk and Moose Snot...There are many lubes that work well for patches I have experimented with a dozen or so through the years...Lube is the last thing I work on when developing a load unless my patches are burning through...I have see changing lube make a big difference in how a gun groups even though the patches work fine...

For about 25 years I used SnsSeal, it's a mix of beeswax for waterproofing boots...Now I use the Moose Snot recipe listed here...

I forget the mix ratio I used but water/Ballistol worked great in my GPR.I let them dry overnight.

i like the NAPA GRINDING OIL #765-1525 for 6 dollars a bottle ,then murphys oil soap,iso propyl,water.reason for this i like DRY patch and i now am cutting at muzzle,i dont like anything greasy when handling pillowtick in strips.

as for pre-cut patch lube, yes OLIVE OIL is real good one and very cheap.

I've been using olive oil at the range for the last few months. As I said earlier, Ilike it better than anything I've tried so far. (I use the "extra virgin"just because I like the name.) I've foundan "almost dry" olive oil patch gives me real good accuracy and, because I pre-lube my patches prior to the range session, they are niceto handle without a lot of mess.

I like to hunt on a clean dry barrel and sometimes leave the load in the gun for weeks. Last fall I tested the fairly stiff lube mixture of bees wax/Crisco/olive oil that I was using at the time by leaving a load in my Great Plains for two weeks (with a squeaky clean barrel).I did have a wonder wad between the ball and powder. When I shot it I could discern no weakening of the powder charge and it hit where it should have. I've not tried that yet with a straight olive oil patch but would expect the same results.

Tanks Semi - But I think I gonna try to get me some extra slutty olive oil.

Hey Bronko, you can't find it on every shelf, but this particular style is pretty good stuff.

Semisane

I just relayed to Terry that you guys were suggesting Olive Oil - she came un-glued - you are not shooting MY expensive real Olive Oil in a />&* gun. I will have to look on my own I guess