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kb1 05-21-2009 05:41 AM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
another fine american gun company going down.I'm saddend by the thought. karl

rdpettit 05-21-2009 07:21 AM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
Too bad but they have been putting out product that isn't in the same league as the Encore and Triumph...ie, the Rolling Block and KP1...

Mr.Flintlock 05-21-2009 09:43 AM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
I use Green Mountain barrels almost exclusively. I hope they are not in financial trouble.

cantremembermyid 05-21-2009 12:29 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
I hope this is untrue. I have found Knight Rifles to be of very good quality, and their employees are a pleasure to deal with. I hope Knight Rifles will bearound for a long time.

They don'thave themarketing and distribution strength that TC or CVA has.This is the area that Knight should invest in. If they are having financial troubles (which I don't know is true or untrue), it probably would be most beneficial for KnightRifles to be acquired byan established, large firearm maker that has a wide distribution network in the US andperhaps internationally.

IMO, marketing and distribution (whilemaintainingits high quality)is more critical to Knight than trying to develop the next technological advancement in black powder firearms.

mountaineer magic 05-21-2009 01:55 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 

ORIGINAL: cantremembermyid

I hope this is untrue. I have found Knight Rifles to be of very good quality, and their employees are a pleasure to deal with. I hope Knight Rifles will bearound for a long time.

They don'thave themarketing and distribution strength that TC or CVA has.This is the area that Knight should invest in. If they are having financial troubles (which I don't know is true or untrue), it probably would be most beneficial for KnightRifles to be acquired byan established, large firearm maker that has a wide distribution network in the US andperhaps internationally.

IMO, marketing and distribution (whilemaintainingits high quality)is more critical to Knight than trying to develop the next technological advancement in black powder firearms.
Knight rifles is owned by a very large corporation. They are owned by Ebsco, which owns approximately 40 companies, including summit treestands, green mountain barrel company etc etc. They started as a publishing company of all things.They own quite a few sporting goods companies.They aquired Knight rifles in 1998

rt_con 05-21-2009 02:06 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
Someone probably already said it, but perception is very important in today's market place.It seems every TV hunting show today, the guy is using an Encore.I can remember when Knight was the "king of the hill" in the MZ in-line market. It seemed you couldn't pick up a hunting magazine without seeing Jim Shockey and his MK-85 with anothertrophy. Knight had all the big name hunters in their stable.. like T/C does today.

Then T/C introduced the Omega with a media blitz... followed by the Encore and Knight was been chasing T/C's tail ever since... and getting further and further behind. CVA's re-emergence also hurts Knight.

I hope Knight survives and gets back in the game.

cantremembermyid 05-21-2009 02:25 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
I am aware the EBSCO Industries owns both Knight Rifles and GMRB. It does not appear, though, that EBSCO (or GMRB) is providing Knight with the broad marketing and distribution channels that Knight needs. TC appearsmuch stronger than Knight in marketing and distribution -- the difference in marketing and distribution between the 2 companies far surpasses adifference in the quality of their productsifthere is any difference in quality between TC and Knight muzzleloaders. That's why an acquisition by an established firearms maker with broad distribution channels maybe helpful to Knight -- if Knight is having financial difficulties. EBSCO does not own any other firearms manufacturer, as best as I can tell.

I think Knight Rifles provides a good quality product, andIthink they have a place in the black powdermarket. They may need to re-solidify quality in a few areas. But, their main problem, imo, is that they are getting beat in marketing and distribution. They need to put an end to that by emphasizing and marketing quality and re-building their relationships with distributors and dealers.

Just my 2 cents.

wolverine72 05-21-2009 04:09 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 
Knight has a great brand, good customer service, and good products. I really like my Knight.

If this is true, somebody will acquire them, or at least their assets. Another firearm company must see some value here.

sjsfire 05-21-2009 04:18 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 

ORIGINAL: wolverine72

Knight has a great brand, good customer service, and good products. I really like my Knight.

If this is true, somebody will acquire them, or at least their assets. Another firearm company must see some value here.
Lets hope this is true. I'm real happy with my KRB7other than the factthat it won't shoot Balckhorn209.

rafsob 05-22-2009 04:43 PM

RE: Knight rifles ceasing?
 

ORIGINAL: rdpettit

Too bad but they have been putting out product that isn't in the same league as the Encore and Triumph...ie, the Rolling Block and KP1...
Well in my book the Encore SUCKS!!! Had one in BP and also a .30-06 barrel. Both SUCKED!!! I have enjoyed my Knight Vision and my NEF Sidekick and the performance they gave me over the Encore. To me the Encore was a piece of junk that SUCKED!!!

I know, I know, you want me to tell everyone how I really feel. "ENCORES SUCK!!!


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