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LarryFox1 04-26-2009 05:46 AM

HELP, What to Do?
 
.Hi guys i bought a Knight rifle off GunBrokers.com.The add in the action said BUYER To PAY Actual Shipping cost.I live in Ga and the Sellers lives in MI.But the Seller is trying to charge me $55.00 dollars shipping cost now.Now i have ship and had alot ship to me for 20 to 25 DollarsTops via USPS Proirty Mail.I can not fiqure out what to do about it.What say yall how do i need to handel it?I have email the seller and ask why it was so high and how was he planing on shipping it.But i have heard back from him

EndeavorShooter 04-26-2009 05:58 AM

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Unless he lives in China I would have a problem paying $55. I would not pay untill he responded with why the price is so high.

cayugad 04-26-2009 06:03 AM

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He's milking you through shipping. It sounds like he's not happy with the sale price as he felt it was worth more. There is no way that the shipping can cost that much. If he did not state a shipping cost on his site, I think you could demand a receipt of the actual shipping cost. He's probably going to try and add a handling fee to all of that too. Contact Gun Broker and see what they suggest. They are pretty good about straightening out something like this.

bronko22000 04-26-2009 06:33 AM

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Well, I am shipping a renegade to a fellow forum member. It is shipping from PA to SD with the same 'actual shipping' and the shipping cost, priority mail is $24.75 + insurance (Under $30 total). So I would send him and email and copy Gunbroker telling him that he is not living up to his end of the contract and you will not send payment until he takes the package to the post office and gets it weighed and comes back to you with the actual cost of the shipping. Send him your zip code and ask for his. Then you can double check the figures (I'd be conservative and give him the benefit of the doubt and estimate the weight at 10 pounds.)
Just for kicks I went into the USPS web site and calculated shipping from Detroitm MI to Atlanta GA, based on priority mail, shipping a 10 pound package, measuring 40"x10"x3" and came up with a shipping charge of a whopping $15.15. So I would say this guy is trying to give you a snow job.

LarryFox1 04-26-2009 06:36 AM

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Thanks cayugad.I can not firgure out how to contact the ones i need to on GunBrokers.com.All i see is something about if this question are that question applys.Ya the guy did not like the Winning Bid,it was 151 Dollars good buy i thought at that price but not to his likeing, so he is trying to rip me off with this 55 dollar Shipping crap

ORIGINAL: cayugad

He's milking you through shipping. It sounds like he's not happy with the sale price as he felt it was worth more. There is no way that the shipping can cost that much. If he did not state a shipping cost on his site, I think you could demand a receipt of the actual shipping cost. He's probably going to try and add a handling fee to all of that too. Contact Gun Broker and see what they suggest. They are pretty good about straightening out something like this.

TNHagies 04-26-2009 06:37 AM

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Yeah that's high. I ship my MLs from TN to CO instead of checking them at the airport and they only cost me $25 w/UPS to ship. I'd just be up front (but nice) and tell him that the quoted price is too much. If he does not agree to reduce it, then I would get gunbroker involved. They'll help you out I'm sure.

flounder33 04-26-2009 06:53 AM

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First of all Don't send the money until you get it resolved. As far as the price goes it seems like a fair price provided the gun is in really good condition. But remember it is a used gun. Also if you have to replace the sights that can get spendy and the scope mounts that are on there are not top notch. So all in all I don't think he should be holding you up on the shipping because he got plenty for the rifle.
Art

sabotloader 04-26-2009 06:55 AM

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LarryFox1

See if this address might help you resolve your problem. GunBroker is usually very receptive to solving problem.

Suggest to them and the seller that you would like it shipped to you via US Post Office - Parcel Post. And now I would also suggest that you request 'parcel tracking' be applied as it would help following where the package is


http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/Sup...asp?faqid=1079

Follow through with Bronco's post - suggest to him that you can calculate the shipping on line and it does not add up to his 'actual shipping'

Horizontal Hunter 04-26-2009 07:15 AM

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I wonder if the seller is shipping the rifle thru an FFL dealer and is adding in the FFL dealers fee. I sold a revolver on Guns America a while back and it was less than $40.00 including the FFL fees.

Bob

LarryFox1 04-26-2009 08:13 AM

RE: HELP, What to Do?
 
No.it is Not being ship to are threw a FFL dealer.It is a Black Powder/ Muzzleloader

ORIGINAL: Horizontal Hunter

I wonder if the seller is shipping the rifle thru an FFL dealer and is adding in the FFL dealers fee. I sold a revolver on Guns America a while back and it was less than $40.00 including the FFL fees.

Bob

LarryFox1 04-26-2009 08:33 AM

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Sorry sabotloader but that link only goes to Question's about things that has happen.And none of them cover my events are pretain to what is going on.Do you have someone are place on GunBrokers.That i can contact about this?I see no way/place on there site.
any body else know of how are who to contact there?

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

LarryFox1

See if this address might help you resolve your problem. GunBroker is usually very receptive to solving problem.

Suggest to them and the seller that you would like it shipped to you via US Post Office - Parcel Post. And now I would also suggest that you request 'parcel tracking' be applied as it would help following where the package is


http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/SupportFaqView.asp?faqid=1079

Follow through with Bronco's post - suggest to him that you can calculate the shipping on line and it does not add up to his 'actual shipping'

sabotloader 04-26-2009 12:05 PM

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LarryFox1

Larry if you go dowm the page a bit it says under related links "Contact Customer Support"

I am not registered so i can not get beyond that point - but if you click on the 'Contact' it will put you to a logon Screen and from there will that allow you to email Customer Support? I THINK...

And you might check with the seller, because 'Horizontal Hunter" might be correct - some states DO require a ML go through a FFL - not many of them but some do. OR the seller might think that he is required to go through a FFL...

Just some additional thoughts...


Horizontal Hunter 04-26-2009 12:15 PM

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Larry,

I am aware that it doesn't need to go thru an FFL but it was just a thought that the seller might not know and was shipping it thru an FFL.

Bob

ORIGINAL: LarryFox1

No.it is Not being ship to are threw a FFL dealer.It is a Black Powder/ Muzzleloader

ORIGINAL: Horizontal Hunter

I wonder if the seller is shipping the rifle thru an FFL dealer and is adding in the FFL dealers fee. I sold a revolver on Guns America a while back and it was less than $40.00 including the FFL fees.

Bob


mountaineer magic 04-26-2009 02:10 PM

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While muzzle loaders are not considered firearms and in most states can be shipped without the FFL involvement,some states have changed and require that Blackpowder guns be shipped through an FFL.Michigan is one such state,.
here's a quote from a dealer, you can find the same info on cabelas or any sight that sells Muzzleloaders.
All black powder/muzzleloader orders from the states of MI, IL & NJ or shipping to the states of states of MI, IL & NJ must be placed through an FFL. In these states, please follow our instructions in the section of this page titled How to Buy Firearms.

driftrider 04-27-2009 07:16 AM

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I'd press him for the details of why he wants to charge you $55 for shipping. I bought a rifle recently from a dealer in New York through Gunbroker, and the shipping was $25 to my dealer in Iowa City, Iowa. Now, it was a CF rifle, so I had to pay my dealers transfer fee, which was $30, so the total cost to get the gun from the selling dealer to my hands was $55, but that includes the fee to do the paperwork and background checks on my end. A ML should not require the NICS check or any involvement from an FFL dealer, unless the state law requires it. If Michigan law requires outbound ML's to be shipped from an FFL dealer, I wouldn't think that the fee would be that much since there isn't anything the the shipping dealer has to do other than put call UPS for pickup or put it in the US Mail. It's the receiving dealer that does any required paperwork and background checks.

I'd ask him to itemize the costs for the $55 he wants to charge you before I paid him.

Mike


HEAD0001 04-27-2009 07:52 AM

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You may not like my response but here goes. When a deal starts out bad it usually ends up bad. I would not buy the rifle from him, he is trying to beat you. I would register a complaint with the auction house. What is his reputation?? and how many transactions does he have on the auction site?? You know what they say---Garbage in-garbage out. I would pass. Tom.

LarryFox1 05-07-2009 08:47 PM

RE: HELP, What to Do?
 
:D:DJuat a update guy's I got the knight Rifle today via UPS.While the barrel was ever so dirty,it clean right on up with and gave me a Bright and shine-ie Bore.It also came with a Set of Millet High Style scope rings.They were not in the Pics on gunbrokers.ALL And ALL i am well please on what i got for my 175 dollars shipping and all.The Scock is darker in real life next to the ones in the pictures, again another plus for me.Old saying still applys
Even a Blind Hog can find a accorn,every ounce in a while:):)

bronko22000 05-08-2009 07:36 AM

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well Larry I'm happy for you. What did you end up paying for shipping?

LarryFox1 05-08-2009 10:03 AM

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Not to bad bronko.24 dollars shipping

ORIGINAL: bronko22000

well Larry I'm happy for you. What did you end up paying for shipping?

bronko22000 05-08-2009 10:55 AM

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Well that sounds about right. Much better than the original quote.

Powerfisher 05-09-2009 06:54 AM

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I just recieved my Hawken vis UPS. It came from the other side of the country, 10 pounds, insurance, $25.00. He is milking you.


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