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SWThomas 03-29-2009 01:57 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Grouse45


The 300grn MZ expander is a fine bullet. When you start talking bullets and cost, a 300grn XTP can do anything that bullet can and maybe better.
Boy howdy! i would have to disagree with that statement a bunch! Although wait what is the 300 gr. MZ Expander? Is it a jacketed bullet or all copper? I am not a barnes fans and they have so many different models....

Here is some fine examples of 300 grain Hornadys and exactly why i do not use them...
They can come apart even at ML speeds - I do not like that.... Don't use them don't shoot anymore..



Great post! That's also why I don't use XTP's. Don't get me wrong, they're great for practice being that they're very cheap. But my personal preference is that I want a bullet that performs better than that.

Grouse45 03-29-2009 02:13 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
Sabotloader,
Pictures, Ballistic gel test's, torture test's:D, water jugs etc, etc, etc. Mean nothing to me. It's in the field results that tell the story. The XTP'S have been excellant performers on game. Ask Chuck Hill how they have done on Boar. He prefers pointy high BC bullets but he'll tell ya. They have been very good bullets. No chasing Pigs with that bullet. As a matter of fact i shot one at about 10 steps with a 300grn XTP in front of Chuck and Randy wakeman. They both thought that was the most devastating kill of the weekend. It didn't even twitch.

The Hog hunt in Crossville is or was a huge hunt. I mean like 20 people for a few years. You would love it. You get to witness alot of different bullets and results with different muzzleloaders as well. The 250grn and 300grn XTP'S are excellant choices for Deer and Hogs. ;)



sabotloader 03-29-2009 02:18 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
Grouse45

Fine and dandy but you better go shoot something with .452/300 grain Gold Dot before you declare a Hornady in the same class...

BC on the Gold Dot is a really nice .233 also - getting right up there with those pointy bullets....

and not arguing the sucess of the Hornady only the fact there are better bullets in that price range available today...

Grouse45 03-29-2009 02:38 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Grouse45

Fine and dandy but you better go shoot something with .452/300 grain Gold Dot before you declare a Hornady in the same class...
I didnt know i did. I compared the XTP to a 300grn MZ Expander which i have shot several Deer with. Both the 250grn and 300grn MZ Expanders.

MountainDevil54 03-29-2009 02:41 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
ive shot the 300gr XTP mags into sand with 110gr Pyrodex P and they performed great. I will have to look around to see if i still have those bullets.

sjsfire 03-29-2009 02:45 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: MountainDevil54

sjs, How was the blood trail with only one hole?

There was none. He (spike buck) fell within eye sight. Maybe 20 yards.





SWThomas 03-29-2009 03:43 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: Grouse45

Sabotloader,
Pictures, Ballistic gel test's, torture test's:D, water jugs etc, etc, etc. Mean nothing to me. It's in the field results that tell the story. The XTP'S have been excellant performers on game. Ask Chuck Hill how they have done on Boar. He prefers pointy high BC bullets but he'll tell ya. They have been very good bullets. No chasing Pigs with that bullet. As a matter of fact i shot one at about 10 steps with a 300grn XTP in front of Chuck and Randy wakeman. They both thought that was the most devastating kill of the weekend. It didn't even twitch.

The Hog hunt in Crossville is or was a huge hunt. I mean like 20 people for a few years. You would love it. You get to witness alot of different bullets and results with different muzzleloaders as well. The 250grn and 300grn XTP'S are excellant choices for Deer and Hogs. ;)

So basically all the Lehigh propaganda you've been flooding this forum with is just BS???

Seriously, I really hope those bullets perform well on your hog hunt or your credibility will be poop.

sabotloader 03-29-2009 03:56 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
SWThomas

No actually he is 100% correct in that statement - that is the only true measure of a hunting bullet.... "How does it work in the real world of hunting for YOU and only YOU"

And to be truthful he has said the samething in previous posts about the Lehigh bullet. I think he and I know I have said - it has possibilties and we both have chosen to further the investigation of the possibilites....

The one thing we have never discussed in the past is that Lehigh makes 45-70 bullets that are used by a lot of 45-70 shooters - the reviews have been favorable - but what does that mean to you and I - nothing until we try it ourselves...

Grouse45 03-29-2009 04:11 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader
The one thing we have never discussed in the past is that Lehigh makes 45-70 bullets that are used by a lot of 45-70 shooters - the reviews have been favorable - but what does that mean to you and I - nothing until we try it ourselves...
That's true, but it has nothing to do with a Muzzleloader to me. That's why i have not brought it up. I got plenty of pics from other peoples kills. I even have a pic with a Deer killed with the 250grn bullet out of an Endeavor. I'll see the results first hand.

spaniel 03-29-2009 04:20 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 


ORIGINAL: Grouse45
As a matter of fact i shot one at about 10 steps with a 300grn XTP in front of Chuck and Randy wakeman. ;)

Can't say I mind getting a little info on new equipment, but more than one of us has questioned (openly or to ourselves) whether the volume you've done on Leigh bullets is TRULY not commercial, and if you count Wakeman among your hunting partners it really throws a red flag in the credibility department to me...there is a reason he can't openly post in a forum anymore. I hope I'm wrong...

I'll wait for some forum members who I know are impartial to post some game reports.


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