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TNHagies 03-27-2009 11:03 AM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
Here are some pics from Lehigh's site regarding the seperation:





Brass vs Copper




http://lehighbullets.com/information/technicaldata.htm



sabotloader 03-27-2009 11:25 AM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
TNHagies

I cleared the same picture up a bit and labeled a couple of things, namely the bullets location in the jell



cayugad 03-27-2009 11:53 AM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
That's an interesting comparison. Before I make any final judgement on the bullet I would want to try/know a couple things with it...

#1 accuracy (if the bullet is not accurate, then it has no place for me)
#2 penetation (from the above test photos it looks like the bullet does real well there)
#3 wound channel (again, from the photo above it looks like it takes care of that problem real well)
#4 shock value to real time animals. (foam and ballistic gel are all fine and good, but I want to see how it works on in the field animals.)


Grouse45 03-27-2009 12:01 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad

That's an interesting comparison. Before I make any final judgement on the bullet I would want to try/know a couple things with it...

#1 accuracy (if the bullet is not accurate, then it has no place for me)
#2 penetation (from the above test photos it looks like the bullet does real well there)
#3 wound channel (again, from the photo above it looks like it takes care of that problem real well)
#4 shock value to real time animals. (foam and ballistic gel are all fine and good, but I want to see how it works on in the field animals.)

It's that's simple.

Old/New 03-27-2009 02:21 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: Grouse45


ORIGINAL: cayugad

That's an interesting comparison. Before I make any final judgement on the bullet I would want to try/know a couple things with it...

#1 accuracy (if the bullet is not accurate, then it has no place for me)
#2 penetation (from the above test photos it looks like the bullet does real well there)
#3 wound channel (again, from the photo above it looks like it takes care of that problem real well)
#4 shock value to real time animals. (foam and ballistic gel are all fine and good, but I want to see how it works on in the field animals.)

It's that's simple.

Well said Cayugad. This is obviously a different way to think about bullet performance. It will take some getting used to by most.Others will not want to venture into something so different no matter what. So...it will come down to performance on animals if the other issues are satisfied. And even then, if reports are great, movement to using this bullet will more than likely be slow.

Grouse45,
Good info. Once again looking forward to your hog hunt! :D

SWThomas 03-27-2009 05:20 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
There's also another factor to the above gel test. Not saying this is the case but being the constant skeptic, until unbiased data presents itself, there's no telling what variables factored into the results of that test. The test was obviously conducted by Lehigh or someone affiliated with Lehigh, therefore the information is suspect from the get go. I'm not saying they canned the results but there's no telling what bullets were actually used, what powder charges, how the gellatin was mixed, etc... All manufacturers skew their in-house tests somewhat. ALL OF THEM. For example, the rifle shooting the copper projectile could have been loaded with a lesser powder charge and therefore the projectile didn't penetrate as deep. I know it sounds paranoid but I'm just a realist. Their obviously not going to post test results on their website that show their product being outperformed by another product.

Hopefully Grouses hog hunt will clear a lot of this up. As hard as a brass bullet must be, I have no doubt it will penetrate well, but what it does on it's way out is what I'm really anxious to see. I'd really like to see the entry wound, exit wound(s), and the damage done to the inside.

sabotloader 03-27-2009 05:41 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
SWThomas

Thought I posted that once already...

These are from a 50 BMG and the deer was at 860 yards - so you can pretty much say that a brass pointy Lehigh works...

Here is the inny...



And here is the outy...



But again it was taken by Dave Fricke of Lehigh

LaneNebraska 03-27-2009 07:34 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

SWThomas

Thought I posted that once already...

These are from a 50 BMG and the deer was at 860 yards - so you can pretty much say that a brass pointy Lehigh works...

Here is the inny...



And here is the outy...



But again it was taken by Dave Fricke of Lehigh

Ya Butt, Dave coulda doctored this kill with his huntin nife, ta make it look like dat...and problee shot it at 50 yards anaway.....

sabotloader 03-27-2009 07:47 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 
Lane

That is the problem with these forums I really can tell if you are serious @ suggesting that Dave doctored the photos?

If you are... I guess I really mis-judged you... my-bad

Here is a couple of more - 510 yards on Red Stag - but again a 50bmg




LaneNebraska 03-27-2009 08:14 PM

RE: Explanation of Lehigh Bullets.
 

ORIGINAL: sabotloader

Lane

That is the problem with these forums I really can tell if you are serious @ suggesting that Dave doctored the photos?

If you are... I guess I really mis-judged you... my-bad

Here is a couple of more - 510 yards on Red Stag - but again a 50bmg







Sabotloader

This was obviously conducted by Lehigh or someone affiliated with Lehigh, therefore the information is suspect from the get go. I'm not saying they canned the results but there's no telling what bullets were actually used, what powder charges,.....

Therefore, I Automatically suspect foul play and such, and question boldly the integrity of folks I've never met, and I try to cast doubt in the minds of all who read my postings, and then I hide behind the anonymity of the internet. [8D]:eek:






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