Peep Sight Question
 

I have a Williams Peep on my ML and I dont know the (ID) aperture size. Does anybody know what the stock size is? I think its .050 but im not sure. I would like a smaller hole but the smallest I can find is a .050. What is the difference between a .050 and a target .050? Thanks.

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Midway has a bunch of apertures but I dont know what size I have.

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Take a 1/16 drill and compare it to the hole. It is .0625.If it looks like it might go but doesn't, you have .050.

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050 might be their smallest.???

http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/brandlisting?brandid=1184

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Thanks for the 1/16 drill bit tip. Not only does it slide right through, so does a 5/64. A 3/32 is too big so its gotta be a .093 or so. Thanks again for the help. Looks like I wil be ordering a .050

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I have a Williams Peep on My Marlin 39A .22 I love it, I think it's the smallest you can get. Why do you want one on your ML? I know it gives you much better accuracy, but ar'nt you worried about it getting blocked with snow or something during Hunting Season. BP

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Naw, I live in CA and they dont allow scopes on MLs during ML season. I like the peep better than theopen sights. A smaller aperture should tighten up my groups. Im not worried about any obstructions.

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I will bet you that under hunting conditions, the change you are talking about will not only not give you better groups, it might possibly give you worse ones. The target peep is great for what it is named after, targets off sandbags on a bright sunny day. However, when are the best times to hunt: just about light and just about dark. Before you buy a smaller apperture, take the peep you have and try to look through it the last 10 minutes of shooting light. I can't see a thing that time of day through a small peep. Maybe a bullseye, but not a small spot on an animal.

I have Williams twilight peep appeture, which is BIGGER than the stock peep. Works great in the field in any light and I am good out to 150 yards. For me, I couldn't ask for better than that. JMO.

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If you were hunting from a blind on a nice bright sunny day, then the target peep would be a good thing. If you hunt like me in shadows, marshes, and normally only see game at just about closing, there are times your better off with the apertures removed and shooting just the ghost ring.

I have a Williams Peep on a Traditions Pioneer side lock. No idea of the size, but it is a nice sight. Very accurate also.

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I have a T/C peep on my Renegade. The aperture that came with it it too small for hunting. I bored mine out to at least .125". This works just fine for hunting ranges. I've shot deer up to 80 yds with it.

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Here is a possible option:

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper...mp;key=110-002

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I have the adjustable peep aperature sight that Ronlaughlin suggested and it is great. You can open it up to the point that it is like using a ghost ring.However if the light and hunting conditions allow you can squeeze it down to target shooting size for greater accuracy. I have been told that besides the low light conditions if you have a small aperature on an animal real close it can be hard to determine exactly where you are aiming on the animal.

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When I hunt with my 30-30 Win I use a twilight peep while on stand.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=380255&t=11082005

But when I'm dogging I take it out and just use the big ring for faster targetacquisition. It is usually very close range and fast shooting when dogging compared to being on watch.

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Agreed, an .050" aperature is very tiny. Not too good for hunting. The one you now have would be considered by most to be too small also. The reason a peep is so accurate is that your eye automatically centers the peep. Thereby allowing you to only focus on the front sight and target.
If you want to test an .050" peep, put a piece of electrical tap over the aperature and poke a hole in it with a large paperclip. That is about .050"or maybe even slightly bigger.

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Some good points about hunting conditions. I really didnt think that it would make that much of a difference but ya, it makes sence. My eyes arent all that perfect anymore so........low light level + small aperture = bad aim. I still may get one for the range. They areonly like 6-10 bucks. My groups are not bad at all but...ya know, always room for improvement. Range day tomarrow. Sposed to be in thehigh 50s with no wind! YYAAAA BOYYY!!!

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Agreed, an .050" aperature is very tiny. Not too good for hunting. The one you now have would be considered by most to be too small also. The reason a peep is so accurate is that your eye automatically centers the peep. Thereby allowing you to only focus on the front sight and target.
If you want to test an .050" peep, put a piece of electrical tap over the aperature and poke a hole in it with a large paperclip. That is about .050"or maybe even slightly bigger.

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That adjustable peep looks good but...ouch! 45 dollars? It sounds like and looks like (I just poked the paper clip)the .050 is going to be way too small for me. I didnt think it would be that small. I think I will just leave well enough alone. Thanks All!

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For ol eye's like mine, A small target peep is great for target shooting with a large apperature the front sight gets blurred. I just change right before dark.
RC

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Williams used to have a box package of apatures. I don;t remember the price but you can call their 800 number off the web site to find out and have a nice slection.

:) Al

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I know the price of the adjustable peep hurts. I almost cried to part with that much for just the peep aperature. However think of it this way, you owe it to whatever you are hunting to make the most accurate shot possible. If you are only intending to kill paper then an occassional bad shot is acceptable. Not wanted but acceptable. With the adjustable peep you have a lot of change possible in your sight picture to match the conditions. My brother is always chiding me to buy the best I can afford on my hunting gear. I tend tobuy the most I want to spend. I hate to ever admit that bro is right but on hunting sights I will have to agree with him.....I'll just never tell him that I agreed. If you couldfind someone with an adjustable peep that you can try, I think you will like it. I still don't like the price but I'm glad I have the sight.

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I am just wondering if we are missing the point here.
Take a tip from an old timer, the real key to using a peep weather it is a small target peep or a ghost ring for hunting the key to being accurate is not to look at the peep you look through it if you learn to to do that you will center your eye where the most light is that will be the center of the peep they are very accurate used this way. Lee

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Had a good day at the range. Wheather was nice. The patterns werent all that good but they were all in the kill zone at 100yds but thats to be expected with the ammo I am using. Its hard to get used to 3" high at 100yds when you cant shoot tight groups. I know, I know...a bad carpenter always blames his tools but when I was shooting the SSTs and the S/Ws W/BH209 my groups were much tighter and more consistant so......Iwill check out that Williams Package if its still avaliable. I do like that adjustable peep idea.....[:@]I bet the Williamspackage sells for a bit itself.