Omega - Pulled Charge...
 

After hunting today, in a torental downpour, I thought it might be interesting to pull the charge and see what it looks like.... but first a little history.

This is an Omega- the gun was last shot on 10/8 - just prior to hunting season. I shot it 4 times to verify POI. The barrel was then swabbed with 3 windex patches, dryed, then a very light coat of Slip 2000 synthetic gun oil was applied to the bore. The taped breech plug was not removed.

On the evening of Oct. 9th the gun was reloaded with 110 grains of T7-2f and a HPH-24 with a .451 Nosler Partition.

Most of October was very warm and dry - can not even say that there were really cool mornings. On the other hand Novemeber has been cool to cold. Today, Nov 7th, was the 3rd rain storm the gun had been through + there was one morning with a very wet snow/rain mixture. The gun has been totally soaked on all of these occasions. After each of these trips, the gun was brought into the house dryed and wipe clean with a treated rag.

After today.. i thought what the heck i am going to push the load out, to cheap to shoot it out - the Nosler costs to much, so when I got home I wiped the gun down blew out the water from the trigger mechanism and the stock with compressed air. I then brought the gun in - removed the breech plug - set the butt pad on the piece of paper you see and pushed the load out.

No doubt about it... that load was dry and would have goneboom just fine. Now I gotta load the whole thing again - get ready for tomarrow morning... and NO! not with the same powder...

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Chicken.....[8D]

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That gives you confidance in you gun
Very cool that it was dry.

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I pushed the load out of my Omega yesterday after hunting in the rain. Everything looked good to me too.

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Sabotloader - you will reuse that powder in the "Rockpit" won't you? Waste not, want not....... :D:D

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yeoman

Well 'crap' - never even thought about that... spare jug was sitting right there in the shooting bag also...

You can bet-ur-ever-loving xxx, had it been BH it would have never been wasted... Dang! shoulda thought of putting in the range jug.. Worst part Terry just hollered at about the black ring in my toilet - Dang! busted

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CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEEP111

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Mike - you need your own shop..........:(

What are you hunting tomorrow?

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My experience mirrors that of Sabotloader. Downloaded them many times after a downpour. If the breech of
my CVA guns was protected the chargestayed dry.In the closed breech Encore the charge wasalways dry.

Have a lot of confidence in the ability of sabotedloads to protect the gun from moisture and have often left my guns loaded for extended periods of time. After araini run some dry patches down the bore followed by a patch moistened with Rem Oil.

My Encore willhuntevery weekend through December 14th.The gunwill stay loaded until i get a deer or hog. One of my guns was loaded in June and was not fired until about the 8th of October.Itfired great and the pointof impactwas where it was supposed to be.

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yeoman

Still looking for that shooter buck.... I went up late this morning in the rain... had to prove to everyone how tough this old man really is... but anyway started up the hill - spotted a little doekinda turning circles in this one spot - could not have been more than 10 yards from me - anyway she turned a couple of time - I froze did not want to get busted - she finally turned and layed down - right out in the open in a driving rain storm. I thought a 'shoot' they are starting to lay downI was hoping they would be moving... Any way when she went down I slipped behind some brush so she could not see me and tried to work away from her without startling her - when I cleared the brush there was another one staring right at me... I could have reached out and touched her... Well there was no hiding from this one - she jumped 180 in the air flipped the tail and ran up through the brush - well that caused 3 more to jump and run... one good shot gun with a open choke I could have got a bee-bee in all of them... NO BUCKS...

Continued to work up the hill over the rockpit by Laird Parkgot on top just started to park on a sheltered stump when a buck jumped up and ran back towards the campground... Really weird rack - it looked like it had 3/4 points on each side but the whole thing just barely cleared the ears...

Walked across the saddle and up into the Potlatch clearcut... and low and behold down on the muddy road - a really nice buck walking along the road headed towards Flynn Butte... If I had the 270 he would have been laying in the mud.

So with all of that I should be back in the same area in the morning and from they are saying in the rain again...

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Well the main thing is you trust your rifle and your load and you're willing to drag your old xxx out of bed and get into the woods. You are sure to have some luck soon. We will be waiting for the story of that as well.

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Huntin' in the rain sucks...unless it's for ducks.

Try to recover the slug and get the pictures posted by Sunday. ;)

Shooting a Speer or Nosler? ....and how far was that buck down on the road?

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yeoman

I kinda like hunting in the rain other than you get wet... but it hides a lot of noise for ya...

The shooterwas at least 200 and probably more like 250 yards down below and to the north of me. Like I said if I had the 270 he would have been down.

Still shooting the 260 grain Nosler -as long as I have them... although the price oflead has dropped quite a bit... 25# bag of shot was only $34 the other day when I was in Black Sheep - that is a whole lot better than the $50 it was a few months back.

I wish I had drove around to see if there was a camp in Strychnine rock pile - there is a really big trailer camp up behind Hansen's shop.

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cayugad

That is why i pulled the load today - I still remember ole Triple Seven lecturing about how T7 draws water or moisture. I have not been really able to prove that even though I know it is a common belief - but I thought I had better check myself - so out came the powder.

It is all loaded up again now and ready to go - think Terry has a bunch of volunteer stuff tomarrow so I think I will head to the woods again.

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I like hunting in the rain too.
All the wooss are home in bed then so the deer are doing their normal stuff.
I have never had T 7 draw moisture even in the Remingtons although I do use the weathersheild with them.

6 Days and counting here. I was just telling a friend this morning I seen all those bucks and got pictures of them right up untill they shed their valvet. I haven't seen one since the one shredding the nine bard shrub at the end of Sept.
Their are signs of them in the woods however. Broken limbs off small trees with the bark all rubbed off. Bare spots in the leaf rubble all muddied up or dry with a track or two in it and of course the licking branch close by all chewed up.

:) Al

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Hey Yooper! how are things going? 6 days left - I am waiting for the 22nd. than I can hunt elk... that is my true passion... normally deer have to find me.

I agree with your words about T7 in the Remington... There are a lot people that think it sucks up the water... but here is a experiment for you to try sometime - maybe you have already seen me post this - one of the reasons that T7 is harder to ignite is I beleive it is coated with a something to protect the powder from absorbing moisture - anyway - try this... put some water in a small bowl place that some where that it will not be disturbed (bounced-moved)for awhile - then drop in some T7 from a spoon - Now I mean right now BP or Pyro will start disolving - but look at the T7- it reamains in its granular form. Walk away and check several hours later... if it has no been sloshed around it will still be granular. If you could wait for the water to evaportae and the powder to dry - you could shoot it... I did this several years ago... I like T7 - I like BH too but I can not afford it unless I quit shooting.

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I have had similar results with my Omega loads staying dry as well. However I no longer attempt to push the load out, I just go ahead and shoot it. Here is a brief story of what I did a couple years back after hunting in a downpour:

I screweda T handle on the ramrod and decided to push the bullet out. Keep in mind it is warm out so I have my shirt off. The bullet/sabot was much tighter than I had expected and I guess I was really leaning overt the handle. Suddenly the T handle broke and ran the ramrod across my chest. The cut was about half the diameter of the ramrod deep and about 4 inches long.

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VAhuntr

yep! I have heard about more than one of those incedents... but i am to cheap to shoot a $ bullet out - so when I get back to the truch or home I use my range rod to push it out...

Oh! by the way OUCH!

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Believe me, there were a few more choice words said as well!;)

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Mike,
For me personally things have been going well. On the other hand I have been as busy as a one armed paper hanger.
Kares dads cancer has came back (mid June) really bad this time so she has been doing those almost daily doctor appointments with him.
I in turn learned how much she helps me when we pull honey and extract it. I did that all alone this year and some thing that normally takes about a week turned into 3 weeks. Still have one holding tank full of honey to strain yet to, but am in no hurry to do that. It is going to the wholesaler any way.

Since Kare is so busy I am staying home this year so I can take care of the animals and do the bees feed and medicines. Even that is running behind.I did set up two of my portable blinds in the woods and a over growen fence row yesterday. Today I am setting up the third one plus taking out the 700/ 54 to shoot. Got some 300gr. Gold Dots in white MMP sabots you sent I'm going to try. I ran out of the purple MMP sabots so I could shoot the 300gr. 50 cal Gold Dots.
Just didn't get around to ordering them in time to use this season.
Nice thing about that Remmy, it shoots nearly every thing you can push down the bore well.
Got to wondering last evening about trying those 50 cal bullets in some Knight sabots you sent that swim in the bore with .452 bullets

I like hunting white tails and have gotten real picky in my old age as to what I want to shoot and butcher.
It sure is a joy just to set in the woods and watch the wild life do some of the crazyest stuff.
The hunting in the lower this year should be really different too since they banned baiting.
Still caught over 150 in my county alone so far and the fine is $500.00 for the first time. Bow season started Oct. first.

We have an Elk season here in Mich. It is a drawing permit system and I feel to costly for the type of hunt it is. I feel I could go out west and hunt for about the same money.

:) Al