WHOOOO NELLY !!!!
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Fork Horn
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I lurk here often, but seldom post. I enjoy shooting my CVA Optima Pro, but only do so about a month before hunting season. I decided to try the new 350 gr. FPB sabots, last year I shot the SW-250 super glides. They loaded nice and easy and seemed to be DEAD accurate.
I obviously had to re-adjust my POI on the scope but WOW is all I can say. As I dialed it UP, the shots lined straight up and down like I shot them with a ruler. I started at 30 yards just to get close on paper, then moved the target to 75 and it dialed right in.
I was done shooting and my 17 year old son just got home from FB practise and wanted to shot the last shot. He'd never shot a smoke pole only shotguns. He sat down and smacked a bulls-eye at 75 yards!!!
NOW, he wants a muzzleto shoot. He loves how it shot and how accurate it was and hardly any kick. Oh darn.........time to get another gun!
I don't like the scope on this gun.....it's a cheapo CVA that came in the kit when I got the gun. Any ideas on a nice scope that I can dial in a flagtail out to 150+ yards?
I obviously had to re-adjust my POI on the scope but WOW is all I can say. As I dialed it UP, the shots lined straight up and down like I shot them with a ruler. I started at 30 yards just to get close on paper, then moved the target to 75 and it dialed right in.
I was done shooting and my 17 year old son just got home from FB practise and wanted to shot the last shot. He'd never shot a smoke pole only shotguns. He sat down and smacked a bulls-eye at 75 yards!!!
NOW, he wants a muzzleto shoot. He loves how it shot and how accurate it was and hardly any kick. Oh darn.........time to get another gun!
I don't like the scope on this gun.....it's a cheapo CVA that came in the kit when I got the gun. Any ideas on a nice scope that I can dial in a flagtail out to 150+ yards?
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Nontypical Buck
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I had the same results with FPBs. They sure do shoot straight. Can't wait to shoot a deer with one to see if they live up to the terminal performance billing.
Somebody was mentioning a deal on a Simmons Pro-Diamond scope. Look at a company called Natchez Shooting Supplies, or something close to that. They have good deals on scopes, especially reconditioned ones.
My gun has a Leupold Rifleman 2x7 on it. They are decent scopes, cost $179 a couple years ago. You can get a scope that works just fine for less than $100.
Somebody was mentioning a deal on a Simmons Pro-Diamond scope. Look at a company called Natchez Shooting Supplies, or something close to that. They have good deals on scopes, especially reconditioned ones.
My gun has a Leupold Rifleman 2x7 on it. They are decent scopes, cost $179 a couple years ago. You can get a scope that works just fine for less than $100.
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Fork Horn
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Good shooting, i am going to give them a try to. My buddy loves his Nikon Omega BDC. I have the Burris Fullfield 2 on my encore and slug gun, and i love them. I wasnt really big on the circles in the Nikon. The Burris 3x9x40 is on sale alot at Dicks Sporting goods for $189 in a kit, with free binoculars. You can print $15 coupons for Dicks and get it for $174, i also see the same combo for $199 on sale at Cabelas alot. I've heard some good things about the new Leupold ultimate slam ML scope also, i read saxman just got one, so he might be able to give some good feedback on it.
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Fork Horn
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Thanks Guys,
I don't know much about scopes, etc. IF I put a new scope on this gun and keep the same mounts, will I have to have it re-bore sighted or could I just swap them out and dial it in again?
Also, IF I wanted to get the BDC scope how could i use that IF they are setup to range for 150gr. pellets and 250gr. sabot? Should I shoot the FPB with 2 50gr. pellets or pyrodex or 3 pellets? Seemed fine with 2.
I don't know much about scopes, etc. IF I put a new scope on this gun and keep the same mounts, will I have to have it re-bore sighted or could I just swap them out and dial it in again?
Also, IF I wanted to get the BDC scope how could i use that IF they are setup to range for 150gr. pellets and 250gr. sabot? Should I shoot the FPB with 2 50gr. pellets or pyrodex or 3 pellets? Seemed fine with 2.
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Sounds like some good shooting.
As for a good scope, try a Nikon Pro Staff 2-7x32mm without the BDC or a Nikon Pro Staff 3-9x49mm with the BDC. Let me state, most of them BDC scopes are set up for a magnum charge with a 250 grain bullet. So while you could learn the marks on the scope for the load you are using, do not take their adjustments as gospel to your load.
In my rifles for long range, I was shooting one afternoon with a T/C Black Diamond XR and 100 grains of Pyrodex RS and a 250 grain Shockwave. I was shooting at a paper plate of a set of sticks in the hay field. I discovered that if I used the fat part of the cross hairs and held that dead center, it would throw them Shockwaves right into that plate.
I like the Nikon Pro Staff. It was recommended by a man that shoots competition and owns the gun shop that I keep in business. He told me for the money there is not a better scope out there. Most of them are around $129.00 and some refurbished are $99.00. That's a heck of a scope for around $100.00. Also I go with the 2-7 power. As a lot of the old timers will tell you, before there were these fancy power scopes, we used to shoot that far with a straight 4x so with a 7x I have all the power I need out to those distances.. Also they are a shotgun scope so they have more eye relief.
Get good glass, and learn your drop. Even with a BDC you have to know how far the object you want to shoot is. After that I can adjust my hold if I have to. Most of my shooting is 50 yards and under unless I hunt the hay fields. Then I could see a 200 yard shot, but I seldom hunt the hay fields. Those opportunities come when walking out to the woods...
As for a good scope, try a Nikon Pro Staff 2-7x32mm without the BDC or a Nikon Pro Staff 3-9x49mm with the BDC. Let me state, most of them BDC scopes are set up for a magnum charge with a 250 grain bullet. So while you could learn the marks on the scope for the load you are using, do not take their adjustments as gospel to your load.
In my rifles for long range, I was shooting one afternoon with a T/C Black Diamond XR and 100 grains of Pyrodex RS and a 250 grain Shockwave. I was shooting at a paper plate of a set of sticks in the hay field. I discovered that if I used the fat part of the cross hairs and held that dead center, it would throw them Shockwaves right into that plate.
I like the Nikon Pro Staff. It was recommended by a man that shoots competition and owns the gun shop that I keep in business. He told me for the money there is not a better scope out there. Most of them are around $129.00 and some refurbished are $99.00. That's a heck of a scope for around $100.00. Also I go with the 2-7 power. As a lot of the old timers will tell you, before there were these fancy power scopes, we used to shoot that far with a straight 4x so with a 7x I have all the power I need out to those distances.. Also they are a shotgun scope so they have more eye relief.
Get good glass, and learn your drop. Even with a BDC you have to know how far the object you want to shoot is. After that I can adjust my hold if I have to. Most of my shooting is 50 yards and under unless I hunt the hay fields. Then I could see a 200 yard shot, but I seldom hunt the hay fields. Those opportunities come when walking out to the woods...
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Cayugad said it well- the Pro Staff seems to get a lot of reviews and is not expensive. If you want to go cheaper, the Simmons ProDiamond is a pretty decent scope for shooting out to 150 yards. I got one on sale for $40 and have been very happy with it.
If you get a new scope, you will need to re-bore sight it- but you can do that yourself. What I did was put the gun in a rest, take the breech plug out, then looking through the barrel, center the barrel on an object 25 yards away or so. Then, making sure the gun doesn't move, look through the scope and move your adjustments so that your crosshairs are centered on the same object. This should put you on the paper at 25 yards- from there you'll have to shoot and make adjustments.
I don't think you need 150 grains of powder- IMO that's just overkill unless that's what your rifle shoots best. If yours is shooting very good with 100 grains Pyrodex, that's what I would stick with. 150 grains won't kill 'em any deader...
If you get a new scope, you will need to re-bore sight it- but you can do that yourself. What I did was put the gun in a rest, take the breech plug out, then looking through the barrel, center the barrel on an object 25 yards away or so. Then, making sure the gun doesn't move, look through the scope and move your adjustments so that your crosshairs are centered on the same object. This should put you on the paper at 25 yards- from there you'll have to shoot and make adjustments.
I don't think you need 150 grains of powder- IMO that's just overkill unless that's what your rifle shoots best. If yours is shooting very good with 100 grains Pyrodex, that's what I would stick with. 150 grains won't kill 'em any deader...
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I lurk here often, but seldom post. I enjoy shooting my CVA Optima Pro, but only do so about a month before hunting season. I decided to try the new 350 gr. FPB sabots, last year I shot the SW-250 super glides. They loaded nice and easy and seemed to be DEAD accurate.
I obviously had to re-adjust my POI on the scope but WOW is all I can say. As I dialed it UP, the shots lined straight up and down like I shot them with a ruler. I started at 30 yards just to get close on paper, then moved the target to 75 and it dialed right in.
I was done shooting and my 17 year old son just got home from FB practise and wanted to shot the last shot. He'd never shot a smoke pole only shotguns. He sat down and smacked a bulls-eye at 75 yards!!!
NOW, he wants a muzzleto shoot. He loves how it shot and how accurate it was and hardly any kick. Oh darn.........time to get another gun!
I don't like the scope on this gun.....it's a cheapo CVA that came in the kit when I got the gun. Any ideas on a nice scope that I can dial in a flagtail out to 150+ yards?
I lurk here often, but seldom post. I enjoy shooting my CVA Optima Pro, but only do so about a month before hunting season. I decided to try the new 350 gr. FPB sabots, last year I shot the SW-250 super glides. They loaded nice and easy and seemed to be DEAD accurate.
I obviously had to re-adjust my POI on the scope but WOW is all I can say. As I dialed it UP, the shots lined straight up and down like I shot them with a ruler. I started at 30 yards just to get close on paper, then moved the target to 75 and it dialed right in.
I was done shooting and my 17 year old son just got home from FB practise and wanted to shot the last shot. He'd never shot a smoke pole only shotguns. He sat down and smacked a bulls-eye at 75 yards!!!
NOW, he wants a muzzleto shoot. He loves how it shot and how accurate it was and hardly any kick. Oh darn.........time to get another gun!
I don't like the scope on this gun.....it's a cheapo CVA that came in the kit when I got the gun. Any ideas on a nice scope that I can dial in a flagtail out to 150+ yards?
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