Scope Choice and Powder
#1
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kenly, North Carolina
Posts: 370
Scope Choice and Powder
I have to admit, I have been away from muzzleloading for 6 years, haven't even seen my collection in that long either, so My wife is buying me a Omega ZC package.
I used to shoot black powder exclusively, but this time I am trying pyrodex pellets, I have done some reading on the forum, and seems most still like the loose. so how are the pellets?
Looks like I will be using shock wave super gluide 250 grain sabots.
Now scopes, My initial thought is to shoot open sights, but maybe if I can get the right scope I will put one on. Haven't had that much good luck with muzzleloader scopes, actually all my other muzzleloaders have peep sights, and only one has a scope. So what is a quality scope that holds together?
I used to shoot black powder exclusively, but this time I am trying pyrodex pellets, I have done some reading on the forum, and seems most still like the loose. so how are the pellets?
Looks like I will be using shock wave super gluide 250 grain sabots.
Now scopes, My initial thought is to shoot open sights, but maybe if I can get the right scope I will put one on. Haven't had that much good luck with muzzleloader scopes, actually all my other muzzleloaders have peep sights, and only one has a scope. So what is a quality scope that holds together?
#3
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kenly, North Carolina
Posts: 370
RE: Scope Choice and Powder
Buck hunter, What do you mean buy loose ( I may regret asking this) are they physically loose? just feel that way going down? or can you actaully turn the gun upside down and tap the barrel and get the sabot to come off the powder? This is good info for myself, I shot sabots before, but I always shot MMP sabots and precision bullets. My wife is supposed to pick the items up I think Tuesday or Wednesday, so I can have her not get them if need be, and get the regular shockwaves.
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#4
Fork Horn
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 330
RE: Scope Choice and Powder
I shot the Superglide shockwaves in my Omega with good results when I was shooting 777 powder. But I would get her to buy the regular sabots and shoot BH209 powder. Probably around 90 gr. This powder is amazing. I just finished my first jug this weekend. I love shooting this powder.
#5
Spike
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Posts: 67
RE: Scope Choice and Powder
I have been using the regular ShockWave sabots in 300gr. and 250gr. with Shockey's Gold Stick powder in my Encore and they seem to work great. I have friends that tried the superglide sabots and they did not group as well but that may be just a gun preference thing. I was using Pyrodex pellets but they were super dirty. The Shockey's is much cleaner burning, no sulfur smell, and much easier to clean up. When they say you can use water and a brush to clean it, they mean it.
#6
RE: Scope Choice and Powder
I have been using the regular ShockWave sabots in 300gr. and 250gr. with Shockey's Gold Stick powder in my Encore and they seem to work great.
My Encore works really well with Shockey's Gold: Killed a couple deer and severalhogs using Shockey's gold and the 250 Grain SST/Shockwave.
#8
RE: Scope Choice and Powder
The real problem is, there is no standard in muzzleloader barrels for the most part. Granted some companies are a little more strict on standards, but over all it is a buyer gets what they get.
When you get your Omega, clean it good and DO NOT PUT BORE BUTTER IN IT.. no matter what T/C says. As for pellets, they will work, but loose powder will work as good, maybe better, and is a lot more cost effective. Save your money, buy loose powder and the money you save, invest in the next grade Omega.
Get some Shockwaves in Super Glide, they will work but if you do not get good accuracy, before you condemn the Shockwave get some low height .452 Harvester sabots and change the bullets over to them if the super glide load too loose. You might also want to get a pack of each and then you can know what the rifle likes..
Good luck with your rifle. Be sure to swab the barrel between shots. And take your time with the rifle. Sometimes they do not come around the first time out. Keep us posted.
When you get your Omega, clean it good and DO NOT PUT BORE BUTTER IN IT.. no matter what T/C says. As for pellets, they will work, but loose powder will work as good, maybe better, and is a lot more cost effective. Save your money, buy loose powder and the money you save, invest in the next grade Omega.
Get some Shockwaves in Super Glide, they will work but if you do not get good accuracy, before you condemn the Shockwave get some low height .452 Harvester sabots and change the bullets over to them if the super glide load too loose. You might also want to get a pack of each and then you can know what the rifle likes..
Good luck with your rifle. Be sure to swab the barrel between shots. And take your time with the rifle. Sometimes they do not come around the first time out. Keep us posted.
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
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RE: Scope Choice and Powder
ORIGINAL: Cessna Flyer
I have to admit, I have been away from muzzleloading for 6 years, haven't even seen my collection in that long either, so My wife is buying me a Omega ZC package.
I used to shoot black powder exclusively, but this time I am trying pyrodex pellets, I have done some reading on the forum, and seems most still like the loose. so how are the pellets?
Looks like I will be using shock wave super gluide 250 grain sabots.
Now scopes, My initial thought is to shoot open sights, but maybe if I can get the right scope I will put one on. Haven't had that much good luck with muzzleloader scopes, actually all my other muzzleloaders have peep sights, and only one has a scope. So what is a quality scope that holds together?
I have to admit, I have been away from muzzleloading for 6 years, haven't even seen my collection in that long either, so My wife is buying me a Omega ZC package.
I used to shoot black powder exclusively, but this time I am trying pyrodex pellets, I have done some reading on the forum, and seems most still like the loose. so how are the pellets?
Looks like I will be using shock wave super gluide 250 grain sabots.
Now scopes, My initial thought is to shoot open sights, but maybe if I can get the right scope I will put one on. Haven't had that much good luck with muzzleloader scopes, actually all my other muzzleloaders have peep sights, and only one has a scope. So what is a quality scope that holds together?
I use Bushnell 3200 Elite Firefly for my muzzies, 3x9, but 2x7 Nikons are good as well, depends on what you wanna spend. Chap
Best Wishes
Chap