Omega Loads
 

Hello all, I am new to ML and have a TC Omega w/a thumbhole wooden stock....although after reading Statjunk's posts on accuracy am already rethinking.

Anyway, I thought I'd ask for favorite loading options. Pellets/Powder 90/100/110 probably. Shockwave 250 seem to be popular, and I have a BDC-250 scope so I'd like to keep it at 250gr. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. I would just like some popular options to play with so I can find my fav.

Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but I went back 8 pages and didn't seem to find anything on Omega loads specifically.

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T C omega 110 gr 3f Triple 7 and a 250 shock wave does 1/2 inch groups at 50yds for me with fiber optic sight.

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I have an omega with the Nikon Omega bdc reticle scope. It is rated for the bdc with 3 pellets(150 gr). I only shoot 100 grains but it works well to 150 yards. then it shoots a little low naturally. I have found it to be very accurate with 100 grains and a 250 gr bullet. I shoot either the Shockwave superglide or the Scorpion pt gold. Both shoot excellent for me . I also have a Traditions bdc scope and it is as accurate as the nikon. Which scope do you have? And is your bdc based on 150 grains? It probably is. I have never had a need to shoot 150 grains personally , but 200 yards is my maximum shot and I prefer 100 or less to be honest. Very rarely do I take a shot over 100 yards. Very rarely do I ever need to.
if using loose powder you should get as much velocity from 120 grains as you would from 3 pellets anyway. Are you planning on shooting 2f or 3f or just pellets? Those are all factors. I would start looking for the right combination with 100 grains and the 250 shockwave and experiment from there.
chet

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For last 4 years I have used 100g of loose 777, 300g Nosler Partition, Crushed rib sabot, Winchester Primer. Very accurate, 1.5" group at 100. 3" high at 100 gives you Max Point Blank Range out to 160 yards, so i tis like shooting thru a 6" pipe form 0 to about 160 or 175. Excellent penetration, excellent expanion, excellent shoot thru, very accurate. Crud ring is only down side to this load. Loads easy, shoot accurate and kills quickly.
Chap

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This year I am going to use a 300g Barnes MZ, with 100g of Blackhorn 209, with suppied sabot andFederal primer. Here is the target that I shot this summer. Can't beat Barnes on penetration, shoot thru, expansion and accuracy, a Nosler is about equal to it. I only gotta move the scope 4 clicks right.
Chap

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I really think that my Omega just has a stock issue. Once I shimmed up the action she shot 1 3/8" at 100 yards which is excellent for a muzzleloader though there are better out there.

I'm sure yours is a shooter so don't worry too much.

Tom

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I'm sure you'll be very please with your Omega. I love mine and plan to get the Laminated thumbole stock for it soon I hope. As far as a load for it. I would try to stay with powder instead of pellets. Triple 7 is a good powder but I would go with the new BlackHorn 209 if it's available to you. I would shoot a 250 gr. shockwave with a Harvester short black sabot,Win. 209 primers and 110 or 120 gr. of BlackHorn 209 powder.This combination has proved to be very accurate in my Omega as well as other Omegas and Triumphs. Give this a try and let me know how it works. Hope this helps.

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Guys thanks for all your replies, and pics (great shooting). I will try it out this next week and let you know what worked out best.

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This works for me.;)



Stock rifle with no modifications. Just the plain old stock not a thumbhole.

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MOhunting

I shoot an Omega and really do like what it can do...

My deer hunting load is 110 grains T7-2f, MMP HPH-24 sabot and a Nosler .451/260 grain Partition. Been using this for years, but becuase of the cost of Nosler now-days my back up load is going to be the same but I will switch to a Speer Gold Dot... .452/250 grain Gold Dot... the .452/300 grain Gold Dot may actually be the better bullet.

Might check this thread...

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2532497&mpage=1&key=omega&#2 532675

Good luck with your Omega...

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Thanks Sabotloader...good thread, like to hear others opinions and just read.

Thanks Again.

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No PB with high charges (150g) in an Omega:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/powerbelt_page.htm

If you wanna learn a LOT about bullets, buy the book "Rifle Bullets for the Hunter A Definitive Study":

http://www.amazon.com/Rifle-Bullets-Hunter-Definitive-Study/dp/B000P0LFTU

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=887436

Chap

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Awesome thanks Chap...good link too. Thanks for all the pointers, it definitely has helped me out and I appreciate your advice!

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You most certainly can use 150gr pellet loads!

For closer range shots and if you are using a mag load, use the 338 platinum. Got a report that load being used on an elk and the bullets barely mushrooming and guess what, the longest shot was 30 yards.

Heres a report on an elk, and take a look at what Randy Wakeman has to say about the retained bullet weight recovered from the animal. 348gr Powerbelt 150gr mag load.


You dont need 150gr charges for 100 yard shots.




www.GandersPowerbeltForu.Powerguild.net

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Yo, FG, give us the URL to the thread on the 348g and Randy Wakeman post, not the whole forum. We don't wanna wade thru all the PB chat to get to the things your talking about. As you know I am not a PB fan, so I don't wanna read all the stuff. Chap

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I like what toby bridges has to say about a bullet that does not exit.
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.p...c,22634.0.html


338 powerbelt with 150gr pellets and the longest shot being 30 yards. Keep in mind that 3 shots was not needed but if offers more than one, why not? :D
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforu...ID14/1842.html

150gr load with 348 AT-
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.p...c,26441.0.html

And for those from MM who were wondering about the guy shooting a WHITE that was having trouble, heres the link "I knew it was in a long post"
http://www.monstermuleys.info/dcforu...ID14/1850.html

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So because somebody had a misfire because he didn't clean the oil out of his bore you say that is the fault of the white rifle???? If he had forgotten to put the powder in would that be the rifles fault too???
Give it up Frontier Gander.

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read his problem again Steve.

I was not blaming the white, i was simply asking for thoughts on why it keeps taking 2 hammer pulls to set the cap off.

I was thinking #1, the nipple of flattened out and not seating properly and the first hit of the plunger then seats it. while #2 hit sets it off.

Or #2, A weak spring?

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The link you provided said the primer was set off but not the load.
2nd primer fired it.
Nothing about gun failure if your bp is blocked.

Apologize to flounder:)

Steve

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Frontier Gander, just to refresh your memory, what you said on MM was:
www.monstermuleys.com a member there is having an issue with one of those White rifles
To me that sounds like you were insinuating the rifle was somehow malfunctioning. When you read the thread you see that was not the case, the cap never failed to fire.
Anyway I'm not here to fight so that's the end of it on this end.
Art

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And he is having an issue with it not going off on the first pull of the trigger. Hes cleaned the rifle many times and it does the same thing over and over.

To me,it sounds like a nipple issue. My deercreek .45 i had used to do the same thing with the stock nipple.

I have nothing against White muzzleloaders at all, i'd like to try one out in fact. I was just hoping that someone who owns a white would possibly help him out with whats possibly causing this.

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Ok this is what the guy said in that forum.
"I shoot a White Super 91 and one time in texas after hogs I forgot to do my regular preshot and my charge didn't go off just the primer."
Get it, the primer went off, the primer went off. No weak spring, no flattened nipple, likely a blocked flash hole.
Art

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Welp i guess he needs to use a fouling charge to make sure the rifle will fire then.

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No matter what rifle you use if the spark can't get to the powder it just won't go off. You know that.

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I use 120g loose 777 ,250g shockwave and 777 primers I swab the barrel after each shot with 50/50 mixture of windex and alcohol, this results in groups less than 1" and often a cloverleaf.The superglide shockwave has same accuracy but shoots one inch higher