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vaslugger 08-27-2008 10:18 PM

Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
Just gettting back into muzzleloading again and have always used pyrodex and mostly T777 and always liked the T777 but how good is the Blackhorn 209 that I am hearing about.Is the accuracy as good as they say and especially how good is it for not being corrosive to the barrel.They also claim it loads easier with follow up shots and wonder if this is true as normally I use the Barnes Expander bullets which I think load pretty hard but they are so accurate and have such great expansion so that is why I want to stick with them.Any feedback will be appreciated. Mike

Underclocked 08-28-2008 12:17 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
Mike, it isso far shown to beeverything claimed - but may be hard to ignite depending upon what rifle or breech plug you have.

Buck Hunter 1 08-28-2008 04:36 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
VASLUggeR, increase your font size and change color please. these old eyes arekilling me trying to read your post. What kinda a gun you shootin?

Crazyfarmer 08-28-2008 08:58 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
i love the stuff.. With the 250gr SW I saw a 1 1/8th inch group at 100 yards. With my T7 the best I ever got was 2.5inches at 100 yards. Not a huge difference, but every bit helps

if you can find it, give it a try. Just make sure it works with your breech plug and it likes certain primers over others

saxman1 08-28-2008 09:22 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
Vaslugger
I have not shot it but there is a possible problem (not confirmed) that there are some cracked breech plugs on CVA rifles.
Maybe everyone who is shooting it should check their BP's regardless of the make.
It has probably been suggested before but it bears reoeating.
I don't want anyone to get hurt and I know allot of you guys shoot your guns allot.
Lets be safe out there

cayugad 08-28-2008 09:33 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
Depending on the rifle you shoot, Black Horn 209 might be a very good selection. As they claim, you do not have to swab between shots. While it might not be corrosive as say Pyrodex, as with any powder, you do eventually have to clean your rifle. I would not put any maintenance of the rifle off for too long only because we then tend to forget. Clean up is with a solvent as water will not do it this time. The powder has excellent power, is very consistent with accuracy, but does need a good hot primer to ignite. It will be interesting to see how it performs under wet and cold hunting conditions when if a powder is going to fail, that is when it will show up.

benamen 08-28-2008 11:16 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
Hey Cayugad,
Noticed a few people wondering how Blackhorn 209 would perform in cold wet conditions. Just wondering what you consider cold temperatures. Obviously it get cold up here sooner than in Wisconsin (been within 4 dgrees of freezing already up here). Let me know a temperature and when things are foul enough, I'll take a few shots with Blackhorn and let you know how I made out.

Ben

sabotloader 08-28-2008 11:38 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
benamen

That is one of the test i want to conduct also... i am in northern Idaho and we regularly hunt in weather well below freezing anywhere from 15 to -10 during the late season hunts so I to am curious about the effects of temp on BH.

I "THINK" it will probably work just fine as all other smokeless powders do in the cold - but what i am curious about is which primer will you have to use.

I was experimenting the other day with it and it really shot well with in my Omega with a 25ACP conversion using small rifle magnum primers... but will it do the same in those freezing temps and being out all day in that those temps. The metal of the BP and barrel absorb a lot of heat before it even gets to the powder.

For me it is not an issue this year anyway - as i will continue to hunt with a proven load of T7... but I do feel a lot of winter testing coming on.

saxman1 08-28-2008 11:41 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
I just ordered some BH 209 so I can get on board.

I read somewhere that there is a 45cal casing and primer breech plug conversion that supposedly sets of the BH209 no matter what.

sabotloader 08-28-2008 11:57 AM

RE: Need Blackhorn 209 Information
 
saxman1


I read somewhere that there is a 45cal casing and primer breech plug conversion that supposedly sets of the BH209 no matter what.
Yep! heard the same thing but who makes the conversion and what guns will it fit???

I think they are using that in the Ultimate...


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