load size in a triumph
07-15-2008, 07:35 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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load size in a triumph
ok i am buying a tc triumph in sept
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
07-15-2008, 07:51 AM
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RE: load size in a triumph
Well first off not all powders are equal the are talking about the original black powder substitute call Pyrodex in pellet form. The big problem with that system is that very few muzzleloaders will shoot accurate with that load; long range requires accuracyif you can not hit what you shoot at it don't make any differance what you are using. Yhere are other ways to use that system a lot of the people that use it find a load that the gun will shoot accurate and then by trial and error find where [what yardage ] the markers in the scope will shoot.
Lee
Lee
07-15-2008, 09:05 AM
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RE: load size in a triumph
Here is a link to another forum where they discuss a load that worked quite well in a Triumph using Blackhorn 209.
http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=13&topicdays=0&start=75
http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=13&topicdays=0&start=75
07-15-2008, 10:05 AM
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RE: load size in a triumph
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
ok i am buying a tc triumph in sept
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
ok i am buying a tc triumph in sept
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
The Triumph, with 120g of Blackhorn is going to be shooting over 2000 fps, plenty for the 250g SW.
Here is your 250g bullet (BC of .210), sighted in 175 yards, with 2200 MV, you can see you4 3.2 inches high at 100 yards and 2.7 inches low at 200.
Chap Gleason
07-15-2008, 10:28 AM
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RE: load size in a triumph
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
they told me the triumph was made to shoot a 150 grain charge
they told me the triumph was made to shoot a 150 grain charge
07-15-2008, 11:11 AM
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RE: load size in a triumph
so what scope would you recommend for the triumph
for 0 to 200 yard shots
again this will be my first time useing a ml
for 0 to 200 yard shots
again this will be my first time useing a ml
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman
Rather than going with a scope like this, maybe you should >>consider<< the "3" over method". What that method is is a way to sight in a rifle so that your shooting thru a conceptual pipe from 0 to Maximum Point Blank Range, which with that bullet is 200 yards. You sight your rifle in 3" high at 100 yards and then just aim dead on out to 200, simple. No guess, no mess, no missing. Your alway in the kill zone with the "3" over method". Compensating makes you guess yardage or use a range finder, which is fine, but for most hunting the 3" over method works fine, especially for MLers.
The Triumph, with 120g of Blackhorn is going to be shooting over 2000 fps, plenty for the 250g SW.
Here is your 250g bullet (BC of .210), sighted in 175 yards, with 2200 MV, you can see you4 3.2 inches high at 100 yards and 2.7 inches low at 200.
Chap Gleason
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
ok i am buying a tc triumph in sept
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
ok i am buying a tc triumph in sept
a omega bdc scope and the 250 grain shockwave tc sabots due to there easy to load in the triumph
they recommend a 150 grain laod with the 250 grain sabots for the scope for deer
should i just start out there and see what happens
or what
the scope is set for 100 200 225 and 250 for the load so it worrys me that changing the load size will throw all that off
i will be hunting deer with it i do not want to shoot 225 or 250 but if i see a big deer i might
what should i go with
The Triumph, with 120g of Blackhorn is going to be shooting over 2000 fps, plenty for the 250g SW.
Here is your 250g bullet (BC of .210), sighted in 175 yards, with 2200 MV, you can see you4 3.2 inches high at 100 yards and 2.7 inches low at 200.
Chap Gleason
07-15-2008, 12:45 PM
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RE: load size in a triumph
Bushnell Elite 3200, 3-10X40 short action compact with Rainguard,11.7 inches long,3.7 inches of eye relief, $219 shipped.
Just click on "Add to Cart" to viewthe price:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-3-10x40-short-action-riflescope.html
Just click on "Add to Cart" to viewthe price:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-3-10x40-short-action-riflescope.html
07-15-2008, 04:09 PM
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RE: load size in a triumph
ORIGINAL: arcticap
Bushnell Elite 3200, 3-10X40 short action compact with Rainguard,11.7 inches long,3.7 inches of eye relief, $219 shipped.
Just click on "Add to Cart" to viewthe price:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-3-10x40-short-action-riflescope.html
Bushnell Elite 3200, 3-10X40 short action compact with Rainguard,11.7 inches long,3.7 inches of eye relief, $219 shipped.
Just click on "Add to Cart" to viewthe price:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-elite-3-10x40-short-action-riflescope.html
Chap