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gleason.chapman 07-04-2008 02:28 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 

ORIGINAL: MoNoFletch

I have a measure and will buy some loose, but is Pyrodex or T7 better? Someone said the Shockey powder was horrible......

Knight/Barnes bullets are what I'm after first. I reload Barnes X bullets in my.338and like them.
Either is good, T7 is newer, a bit more powerful. Shockey is less powerful and velocity at same charge varies quite a bit (up to 207 Fps). Then stick with Barnes, Knight sells the "Red Hot", which is a Barnes also the ultimate slam, which is a BarnesTMZ.ABarnes MZ is also a good bullet. I like the 300g sincethe keep energy down range better. If you sight in 3" high at 100 yards your shooting thru a 6" pipe from 0 to about 175. Best Wishes,
Chap Gleason

falcon 07-04-2008 04:36 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
When I got back into muzzleloading my friend and neighbor used 150 grains of Pyrodex and so I did too. 150 grains of Pyrodex were accurate in my guns.Found out that such heavy charges are not necessary and cut it back to 100 grains.

The key to using JSGis atight fitting sabot and a well tamped powder charge: This cuts the sd down to less than 40. If you do not feel the JSG compress you ain't doing it right.

oldsmellhound 07-04-2008 08:14 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
I'd go with T7 - higher velocities, very accurate and not too corrosive. Pyrodex is very consistent, but requires more cleaning.

lemoyne 07-04-2008 08:48 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
Most of the powders can be made to shoot accuratly in some guns, the APP and the powders that have the same base are very tricky and in my opinion not as dependable,I used APP for a couple years but every once in a while I got a can that was eratic, it is also 250 or 300 fps slower with the same load. Pyrodex is an old favorite and very consistant a bit dirty and very corrosivebut it is soft dirt and easy to deal with it is right about the middle in both burning range and velocity. 777 is a high enegrypowder and has very hard crud and has to be wiped every shot and if you get crud ring you have to scrub between each shot till you get it out. Last but best on the list is the new Blackhorn 209 it is noncorosivehas the most enegry [it is just a bit faster than 777FFF] and shoots best if you do not wipe between shots it is also the most expensive and this bothers some people; I personally can only get out to shoot once a week on an average and when I do my time is valuable enough to me to use the best. You ask about loads well one of my favorite is a 200 gr SW in my Triumph with 120 gr of BH209I get groups that are just over an inch on average chrony an average of 2255 are sighted at 3" high at 100yds dead on between 170 1nd 175 yds and 3" to 4" low at 200yds I have used this bullet on deer and boar several times and have always been pleased with the results. I can actually get tighter groups with 110 gr of BH209 and may very well use that even though I get a bit more drop. I hope this helps you get a bit better idea of what you might like to do. Lee

UtahRob 07-06-2008 02:46 AM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
all the guns i have are nail drivers with 95 and 100 , no need for more .



MoNoFletch 07-06-2008 05:23 AM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
I just recieved my manual for the KRB. It shows a chart with the different loads. Example.....275 Red Hot will drop 17.5 inches at 200 yards with 100 grains of powder. Put the extra 50 in there and it decreases to 12".
I am off to Bass Pro today. I will let you all know what I find!! :D

gleason.chapman 07-06-2008 10:53 AM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 

ORIGINAL: MoNoFletch

I just recieved my manual for the KRB. It shows a chart with the different loads. Example.....275 Red Hot will drop 17.5 inches at 200 yards with 100 grains of powder. Put the extra 50 in there and it decreases to 12".
I am off to Bass Pro today. I will let you all know what I find!! :D
The 275 Red Hot is the Barnes XPB pistol bullet (Barnes X bullet PB for Pistol bullet), it is excellent if it shoots well in your gun. Since it is marketed by Knight, it must or they would not be selling it and recommending it in the manual. Good write up on the bullet here:

http://randywakeman.com/ballltd115.htm

Try some Blackhorn powder with that bullet in your KRB. Lets us know how she shoots.
Best Wishes, Chap Gleason





SteveBNy 07-06-2008 01:04 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
Reports are of unreliable ignition of the Blackhorn with the KRB.

Steve

CamoCop 07-06-2008 02:40 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 

ORIGINAL: frontier gander

i prefer pyrodex due to it being a lot more consistant for me.
x2! i beat my head against the wall with 777, it did burn cleaner but i could not get consistancy. after a cleaning and 3 shots with Pyrodex, i had a huge grin on my face:D

MoNoFletch 07-06-2008 03:57 PM

RE: Magnum charges.........??
 
I hae Pyro pellets and will buy a pound of loose, but 777 or Pyro? [&:]


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