RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

If you want easy and cheap, go with the pre-packaged XTP's - those tend to shoot well out of the Wolf and perform well. If you want easy and not as cheap, but with better terminal performance, go with Barnes Expander MZ. If you want to play around some, there's no end to the combinations you can work up.

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

I just bought xtp's and sabots in bulk. $20 for 50 xtp's and 50 sabots as opposed to $13 for 20 prepackaged. Just a thought if you plan on doing a good bit of shooting. The xtp's should be all the bullet you will ever need.

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

That 250 Gold Dot is my go bullet for woods hunting I have take 5 deer with a back edge of the shoulder shot and the were all bang flops 110 of 777 [1900]or 110 of BH209 [2000].
My go to bullet when I might have to shoot over 150 yds is the 200gr SW 120gr BH209 [2250] 3" high at a 100yd 3" low at 200yd dead on at175yd.
The Triumph is a mean machine.

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

Here are some 250 grain Gold Dots shot into damp sandy loam at 100 yards.



Here are some 300 grain Gold Dots shot into damp sandy loam at 100 yards. Take your pick.

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

I am with SabotLoader, speer gold dot 300g with Crushed rib sabot, 100g 777, Winchester or Federal Primer. This is a speer Gold dot 300g taken from a Doe shot with a tC FL with 70g of Goex.
Chap Gleason

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

If the Barnes MZ do not work for you, then try the barnes 45843 300g 45/70 bullet using a crushed rib sabot. Hollow point is just exactly like the MZ. MZ is .452, 45843 is .458 diameter, fit tight, shoots tight. "Aim Small Shoot Small". Barnes are EXCELLENT bullets, high cost, but definite better terminal performance. Chap Gleason

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

Long shanks perfect mushroom---thing of beauty "Craig Boddington", and I agree. If a bullet totally pancakes out then it is not that far from fragmenting, note what happens to Frontier Gander's PB at 70, 80, and 100g then 125, they totally pancake out then the next speed up they fragment. So in my mind the best bullets are those that have long shanks and are perfectly expanded out at the head of the bullet, like the 300g Gold Dot in the picture, which is what I shoot. In general the 300g bullet for bullet has a higher BC, therefore retaining energy to penetrate thru the animal on long shot. I have shot some 240 Knights and 250 XTP and and killed deer with them, they did not shoot thru and were generally on the off side under the hide. I have also shot the 295g PB, and I had fragmenting problems with those, but I was pushing them with 150g of powder. That was before I joined the forum and got educated on loads, PB, etc.
Best wishes,
Chap

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

Here are some pancakes.




80,90,100g 405g AT. Powerbelts are PURE lead with a thin copper coating to prevent lead build up. You can NOT compare modern Pistol bullets to an actual full bore projectile thats pure lead.


295g HP @ 100 yards with 80g pyro Select. Hit my 2x4 and then went into sand behind my target,



More 405 AT's that i fired into some real nasty sand,


Now here is some tests i did for Forum member Saxman,
these are 245g AT with 80g PS which IS the maximum limit for this bullet.


Hollow Point 245 pancake with 80 grains No matter what range. Thats what the HP does, Its made to rapidly expand while the Aerotip slows down this process and prevents break up.
LEFT: HP. RIGHT: AT Both were fired at the same range and same charge.


Powerbelt recommends 150g mag charges for shots Over 140 yards, never intended for 30 yard shots. Especially with pure lead.

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

Thank you FG. Chap

Dmboggs74, These are good pictures of what I mean on the charge being too much and pancaking out the PowerBelt. Chap Gleason

RE: Need help with bullet choice
 

Dmboggs74,

If your Wolf has a real tight barrel like mine, I would highly recommend the Hornady 250g SST with the Low Drag sabots. Not only do they load significantly easier, but they also come 25 to a box for ~ $14.00.
The Gold Dots are working well in my KRB but were too tight in my Wolf.
Good luck and have fun making smoke.

James