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frontier gander 07-01-2008 08:27 PM

Omega is here!!
 
Its here!


But sadly,I did not get a chance to pick it up :( I went shopping for conicals and will have to pick the rifle up in the AM.

The only place i could find powerbelts at was The mountain man, in manitou springs and they were over priced by as much as $6.

I already have some 295's coming in the mail so i went and bought 2 boxes of 370 grain maxiballs to sight in with and hopefully get some good accuracy out of the TC with them.

Have plenty of powder, A lot of primers "Thanks saxman"!! The rifle also is coming with the original open sights which i am very thankful for!

So tonight will pretty much be a toss and turning night and very little sleep.

cayugad 07-01-2008 08:41 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Well I am sure when you get your hands on it you will find something that will shoot just fine out of it... People do claim they shoot powerbelts well. I am sure you will figure out the powerbelt angle in them. That would then make a nice hunting rifle for you.

corey012778 07-02-2008 02:01 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
I can't wait to see what you do with the Omega. No I am not going to buy it.

gleason.chapman 07-02-2008 05:16 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 

ORIGINAL: cayugad
you will find something that will shoot just fine out of it...
FG, The Omega like the TC Triumph was designed for sabots. Here are some good shooters in my Omega:

300g Nosler Partition HG (Hand Gun)
300g Speer Gold Dot
300g TC ShockWave 300g

Here is Nosler Partition: http://www.the-gleasons.com/noslerpartition300g.htm

Here is SW: http://www.the-gleasons.com/tcshockwave300g.htm

And here is Speer Gold Dot.
Take your pick.Shot with a Crushed Rib sabot, the SW was with supplied sabot.
Best Wishes with this beauty (I love that stock and the SS barrel),
Chap
PS PB shot well in it also, but you know my stand on that subject, so I am not gonna start.





gleason.chapman 07-02-2008 05:41 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 

ORIGINAL: corey012778

I can't wait to see what you do with the Omega. No I am not going to buy it.
Yes you will, you get 3 guns (sell the Am Knight and the CVA). Geta TC renegade sidelock (I think you have a FL)with a 45, 50 and 54 Green Mountain barrel in 1:70 twist for PRB, another 3 barrels with 1:24 for sabots (about $200/barrel new). An Omega for Rifle season (cause CF shooting is a laydown).
1 other gun. I suggest the Savage, since it is a mini-ballistics lab and you will never run out of bullets, powders and sabots to try with that. Gotta have a 10 year rifle improvement plan friend.
Chap


lemoyne 07-02-2008 07:30 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
I shoot just about everything in mine, it does shoot sabots better than anything else, but I also go places where I can not use them[ not every state has as much commen sense in there laws as AR] if you work through your loads it should not be a problem to get PB's and Sabortooth bullets to shoot but you might need more powder than you prefer[ I start out at 90 gr so I really dont know how low you can go and still stay under 2 inches in a wide range of conditions. With a good scope it should not be a problem to find some loads that shoot an inch, with sabots you can give yourself the advantage by using BH209 I have actually gotten so groups down to 1/2 inch when conditions were perfect [thats been rare lately the wind keeps blowing]. You may find TC guns tend to like a bit more powder [ or maybe its me] when you want to use regular conicals put a wad over the powder 25 or 30 gr corn meal by vol an other wad under the bullet, if you find a better way to get them to shoot decant groups with conicals please let me know, also I have always used Pyrodex P to shoot them [if it aint broke dont fix it] Lee

bigtim6656 07-02-2008 09:12 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
i am goin g to my a triumph next month can not wait i plan to buy the pellet recommend and the sabots recommend by tc aleast for the first year
i will buy a bdc scope and hope to be good out to 200 yards

i went to a local gun shop in the next town the one in my town sucks guy is a dick has old scent and is over priced

the next town over had a good shop
the lady running it was about 75 new more about guns and hunting then all the people at the local gander mountain

but here price for the nikon bdc was 360 cost for the triumph that she would need to order 600

midway and cabelas has them on sell for 439 right now

frontier gander 07-02-2008 10:27 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
ok for far its shooting great withthe 370g maxi and 80g pyro P. @ 20 yards with open sights, the first 3 shots were in one hole.

I got the sights centered up and right where they needed to be, but i ran out of adjustment to the right and my sight is bottomed out all of the way. I moved to 58 yards and the bullet skimmed the top of the box, A good 8" high. I will have to have tc send me their updated tru glow sights as these sights do me no good. Probably would still be shooting a few inches high at 100 :D

Doing good so far. The thumb hole is excellent.

After my 3rd shot i did notice the barrel towards the breech plug was getting really tight and i had to bunch up my t shirt and put it over the ramrod to get the bullet down. Must be the breech plug design causing this tight ring of fouling. I used triple 7 209's.



lemoyne 07-02-2008 11:22 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
bigtim6656, they will shoot with anything and are more conveinent to use, but you haven't seen anything till you tune it up with BH209. Lee

frontier gander 07-02-2008 11:36 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
just sighted the scope in at 20 yards. i found that i did not have to remove the rear sight so thats nice for now. Maybe some QD rings?:D

Just cleaned the rifle completely. Removing the plug with the scope on is a PITA so i pull the stock. Dont want to scratch it!

Going out to 58 yards in a few hours. Its to darn hot out there right now.

SteveBNy 07-02-2008 11:55 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
I found using a socket with a long extention to work best.
Still need to protect the stock withpad - they do ding easy.

Steve - see I can help:D

frontier gander 07-02-2008 12:08 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
:D yeah i know you can.

I'll mark this day down in my calander.

Getting ready to take it out to 58 yards. I did something rare and put on a pair of shorts :D

frontier gander 07-02-2008 01:17 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
58 yards. Brother took 2 shots to see how he would do.

All of my 4 shots to the left were with CCI shotshell primers. Wasnt pleased with the group but its a start.

My next 3 shots that are center were with the remington kleanbore primers.

Going back out with a new target and going to shoot 71 yards off my table and see how i can do.







frontier gander 07-02-2008 02:28 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
71 yards with rem kleanbore 209's.


cayugad 07-02-2008 02:48 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Out of curiosity, it would be intersting to see how that rifle does with a 250 grain Shockwave... even though sabots are not legal in your State for the muzzleloader season.

What do you plan next... powerballs?

frontier gander 07-02-2008 02:52 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
295 powerbelts as soon as they come in. should be by mid next week i would expect. I think if i were to wad a fiber wad i could get them to group in 3s.

i hate these lubed bullets though. i accidently knocked over the case and half of them fell right into the dirt. Yeah, you all know what went on when that happened :D


frontier gander 07-02-2008 05:38 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
ok, better 5 shot group @ 71 but i just can not explain why shots 1-3 are so spread out and 4 and 5 are clipping.


bigtim6656 07-02-2008 06:18 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
well i will be useing the bdc scope i thought you had to use a certine grain of bullet and powder

ORIGINAL: lemoyne

bigtim6656, they will shoot with anything and are more conveinent to use, but you haven't seen anything till you tune it up with BH209. Lee

Semisane 07-02-2008 09:39 PM

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i just can not explain why shots 1-3 are so spread out and 4 and 5 are clipping.
Hey Gander, I've had the same problem. In my last session with the Mustang I got a 100 yard group that had about a 1" vertical spread, but a 2 1/2" horizontal spread (see target). I'm convinced it's not the gun, but something to do with shooting technique - probably something like cheek weld ortrigger control.



frontier gander 07-02-2008 09:45 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Could be. Im setting up for 100 yards tomorrow and going to bring out the ol' bean bag to add a little weight to my shooting rest. Going EARLY in the morning! I didnt sleep for chit as i predicted. Woke up @ 5am and stayed away until 8am when i could get the mail.
Post master helped me unbox it and he fondled it for a while :D

corey012778 07-02-2008 10:09 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
nice looking rifle,

good start too.

saxman1 07-02-2008 10:46 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Thats a real looker you got there FG.
Let me know what kind of prices you are paying for stuff,If I can get it cheaper I will send you whatever you need.

corey012778 07-02-2008 11:05 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
hey saxman, what is the price for plat powerbelt? I am looking into getting some 45 and 50 cal.



frontier gander 07-02-2008 11:21 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Thanks saxman. I apprecaite your offer and if i think up something i'll have you check on it!

I know one thing, I have plenty of primers! :D

corey012778 07-03-2008 12:12 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
if you want to try some saboted rounds let me know. no use for to waste money to buy sabots if you can't use them in your state.

corey012778 07-03-2008 01:16 AM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
FG, your inbox is full, sorry

anyway, I am going to send ya 20 (+/-1) hornidy 300xtp with sabots and 20 430 212 gr homecast semiwad cutters with tc mag express sabots to match. keeping my big stuff to myself until I get them to work for me.

think that would be enough for ya to play with.:D

txfireman 07-05-2008 08:06 PM

RE: Omega is here!!
 
Try the Variflame primer adapters. I found a huge difference in groups when using it. Initial investment is high at I think $24 but you can change primers for pennies and reuse the adapters over and over. I use nothing but that. A bit cleaner too.


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