RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Chap, If im not mistaken, thats the bullet under the hide right in front of the shoulder, am i correct? I know it was a 30 yard shot and i cant see any exit hole. I am curious.

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Chap, While I very much appreciate all the hard work on that ballistic table I think I may have confused the bullet I was looking for a bit. I should have started another thread I guess, I apologize........you gave me the ballistics ofthe 300gr "Sabertooth" from my open sighted flintlock with 100grs of T7 (I actually use regular Goex black FFg)
But anyway I sight in dead on at 50 yards with that gun and will probably never have any desire to shoot it over 75 yards in my life.

The bullet I was hoping to hear about was the one I was messing with yesterday9When I should have been shooting the Harvester I guess)
........300gr T/C Shockwave from my CVA Magbolt 150.
I am shooting 120grs of T7, with a 1/2" high POI at 100 yards. At 50 yards it was just about 1" high.
This is the one I would like to know the ballistics for because it's coming from a scoped inline and I MIGHT see a long shot at some point.
I settled on a 1/2" high at 100 yards because I figured it will give me a little more leeway on a dead on hold to maybe 150 yards but still be basically point on all the way back to me.

Sorry for the confusion and thanks again for the info you provided.

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

The TC SW is the same bullet as the Hornady SST, in 300g the BC is .251, see here:

http://www.hornady.com/media/2008_catalog/45-48_ammo_muzzleloading_accessories.pdf

using .251 BC, 300g SW, MV=1800, 1/2" high at 100 yards I am going to say the dead on is 125 (I was wrong, 1/2 high at 100 is dead on at 110, so sigh in 110 yards)dropping those into here:

http://www.sav10ml.com/pages/load_data/traj_basic_dat.html

gives this:





So from 0 to 125 your shooting thru a 1" tube, at 150 you would be about 4" low. I would sight the
gun in 3" high at 100, this is called the "3 over method" and basically your shooting thru a
6" tube from 0 to about 175 yards with that load.
Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Here is a rerun of your numbers with a 150 yard zero, which is 3" high at 100 yards (convenitent for sight in). Your good to 175 yards with 3" high at 100. Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

I don't recall where the bullet settled. It could be there, looks like it and that would be consistent with the angle of the shot. The bullet did fragment some, and I am not sure how much weight it lost. He was shooting 150g of Pyrodex in an Encore, so it was moving. I would say close to 2000 fps. I know my brother uses these exclusively, he hates sabots cause they load hard. Once he finds a good bullet, he will buy about 10 or 15 packages. These bullets are excellent and are about 1/2 the cost of the PB.
Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Chap,
You're the man.........thank you so much.

I might even be doing better than those numbers because we were thinking 1800fps from 100grs of T7.......I'm running 120grs of loose T7 from the inline and might be pushing darn near 1900fps with that bullet?

Solid numbers though Chap thank you!:)

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Your welcome. For those that want to learn how to do this yourself do the following:

It is free SW here:

http://www.sav10ml.com

Then Click "Enter"

Then on left hand side scroll to NEW Bullet Drop Calculator (this will open a new window)
and click on it.

Put your Bullet weight, MV, BC, sight-in yards and output increments into the interface.
Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

All,
Now do yourself a favor and print this to PDF, and make a IE Favoritehere are instructions:

http://tinyurl.com/2rwg99

Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

You can check your numbers out here:

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2878035

where I used a TC SW, 300g bullet, 1700 to 2100 MV to show bullet drop at midpoint of the arc.
Chap

RE: "Sabertooth" by Harvester Bullets??
 

Well I got out to the range today after the thunderstorms rolled through.........humidity was about one million percent. Whew was it muggy. I wasn't holding out much hope for quick ignition times from the ol' T/C Flinter but she didn't dissapoint as usual.

I don't think I have ever had a more reliable and accurate gun in my life...........of course there's a lot of attention to detail involved and our crew has the flintlock thing pretty well ironed out by now. We have a few tuning and prep secrets we use and tehse things go off almost as quick as a darn centerfire. I'm always surprised when guys around me comment at how fast they go BANG when it's done correctly. LOL:D

Anyway.......I digress.

I ran a couple of the 300gr Harvester Sabertooth bullets down her at 50 yards (3 to be exact) to see how they grouped and they did NOT dissapoint. First shot was 2" low at 50 yards because I forgot my exact hold on that rifle but it was perfectly dead down the middle. Next shot was my preferred front sight on 1/2 center dot and it was 1/2" low of dead center right down the middle again.
3rd shot without cleaning I might add I managed to duplicate the same hold and when the smoke cleared and the binos came up I couldn't find the 3rd hole?:eek:
I had one of those.......'What the?" moments.

Walked out to the target to look at what went wrong andthe 3rd bullet went almost precisely through the 2nd hole barely cutting a little bit of a notch above it. For all intents and purposes it was same hole.
:)

So basically if I would have held correctly on bullet #1 I could have potentially had a 3 shot one hole group with an open sighted flintlock. Not too shabby for the weather and heat and the fact that my shooting glasses were fogging like crazy too! LOL
I would have shot more but man it's just not a ton of fun when the smoke just HANGS all over you like a blanket in the humidity.

To sum it up, even with a limited range session I couldn't have been more impressed, all 3 bullets were in the center of the target centerline not even a 1/8" off left or right.

Load was 100grs of Goex black FFFg , Harvester 300gr Sabertooth bullet.
Gun is a custom T/C Pennsylvania Hunter (old style stepped round barrel)

If these new bullets perform as well as they seem to shoot I think I have another bullet choice that should flip those PA whitetails nicely. :)When it cools a bit I'll really run em' through the ringer but for now I'm pretty happy with that little purchase.