I have shot most of all the black powder substitutes out there. APP is definitely the slowest by volume. The sticks are rectangular and subject to chipping. Stick to Triple 7 and Powerbelt bullets.

i have never had problems with the burris company. i have a burris on all my guns. i think they're abetter value then Leupold.

Because the granulation of the loose FFgis so coarse, Iwouldn't use any APP besides theFFFg.

I noticed that the tables didn't list the APP FFFg at all.
FWIW, it's probably more potent and consistent than FFgtoo.

Does your rifle have the Knight Power Stem for a more efficient powder burn?

http://www.knightrifles.com/productDetail.aspx?id=900042

no, my rifle does not have the power stem breech design.

I shot it the other day using FFg APP and was kind of surprised at how well it did. While it did not give me as tight a group as I demand, it gave me a starting point. I used 100 - 150 grains of the loose powder that that extreme fluted barrel is smooth. Very little recoil. It actually started shooting pretty good around 130 grains of APP and a Shockwave. But it was getting late in the day and I decided to stop and shoot a couple other rifles that day as well... So I do have some good experiences so far with APP.

When I get a scope on the rifle I can then be sure that it is the rifle and not me. With fiber optic sights I admit I am not always 100% sure it is not me instead ofthe rifle.

Cayagud,

How is the fouling with the APP? Is it as clean as they claim?

APP is very clean. You might notice a slight white chalk like build up near the muzzle if you shoot a lot. I was shooting it in my shotgun one day testing loads and never had to swab the barrel and must have shot off 40 rounds that day. In my shotgun and revolvers, I use APP all the time.

Im gunna be trying the JSG in my omega X7 tomarrow (hopefully) with some .45 250xtp some 250hornadySSTs both in the crush ribs. I guess we,ll see How it goes. This is the second time Ive shot the X7 I dont need super high velocity 1700 to 1800 fps with tight little groups would suit me fine

It will be interesting to see what kind of results you will get.. I will be watching for your results.

I just ordered two boxes each of Speer Gold Dot in 250 & 300 grain that I want to try in a number of rifles.. one of them being the new Knight. All I have right now are nosler sabots and some crushed rib so I am going to try and figure out a good mix and match and place an order for them with MMP in the very near future.

You will need close to 150g to get that with APP/JSG. Chap

Im gonna have to settle for 1500fps then. I dont wanna go to 150. This X7 is real light. Probably try different powders eventually. but Ive got the JSG on hand