tc white mtn carbine
#11
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 0
If the barrel is 24" long and your ramrod turns more than a third of a revolution, you probably have a 1:48 twist. As far as I know, they came in 2 twists, 1:48 and 1:twentysomething. It's hard to judge exactly.
If you get the ramrod in the barrel some short distance, then measure up the ramrod say 12 inches and wrap some tape at that point, you may get a more accurate reading on the amount of twist you can observe as you push the ramrod in for that measured 12 inches. Then multiply by 4 to get the twist for 48 inches. My guess is you will come out to a number close to 1. If you do, its 1:48. If your number is close to 2, then its a 1:21, or 24, or 28 or whatever other rate they used.
If you get the ramrod in the barrel some short distance, then measure up the ramrod say 12 inches and wrap some tape at that point, you may get a more accurate reading on the amount of twist you can observe as you push the ramrod in for that measured 12 inches. Then multiply by 4 to get the twist for 48 inches. My guess is you will come out to a number close to 1. If you do, its 1:48. If your number is close to 2, then its a 1:21, or 24, or 28 or whatever other rate they used.
#12
Fork Horn
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: michigan
gearheart; I have 2 wmcs, one is my daughters, w/4 power scope. Her's drives tacks at 70yds w80gr ffg goex and 275gr maxihunter. She wacked a big doe this fall, her first deer! Mine has a gmb 21" fast twist and shoots great so far, only had it out once. Lot's of potemtial!!!Trying to decide on which scope for it! They handle great and shoot well!!!
#13
Thread Starter
Fork Horn
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
From: Kitchener Ontario
ORIGINAL: UncleNorby
If the barrel is 24" long and your ramrod turns more than a third of a revolution, you probably have a 1:48 twist. As far as I know, they came in 2 twists, 1:48 and 1:twentysomething. It's hard to judge exactly.
If you get the ramrod in the barrel some short distance, then measure up the ramrod say 12 inches and wrap some tape at that point, you may get a more accurate reading on the amount of twist you can observe as you push the ramrod in for that measured 12 inches. Then multiply by 4 to get the twist for 48 inches. My guess is you will come out to a number close to 1. If you do, its 1:48. If your number is close to 2, then its a 1:21, or 24, or 28 or whatever other rate they used.
A little more scientific method. Yes indeed 1:48 it is. Thanks UncleNorby.
If the barrel is 24" long and your ramrod turns more than a third of a revolution, you probably have a 1:48 twist. As far as I know, they came in 2 twists, 1:48 and 1:twentysomething. It's hard to judge exactly.
If you get the ramrod in the barrel some short distance, then measure up the ramrod say 12 inches and wrap some tape at that point, you may get a more accurate reading on the amount of twist you can observe as you push the ramrod in for that measured 12 inches. Then multiply by 4 to get the twist for 48 inches. My guess is you will come out to a number close to 1. If you do, its 1:48. If your number is close to 2, then its a 1:21, or 24, or 28 or whatever other rate they used.
A little more scientific method. Yes indeed 1:48 it is. Thanks UncleNorby.
#14
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,246
Likes: 0
From:
ORIGINAL: mcawful
here's a handy barrel twist chart for quick reference...
http://www.thebuckskinner.com/barrel_chart.html
On here it says that the White Mountain has a 1:28 twist. Have you considered that the barrel on the rifle may not be the original?
Did you buy it new or used?
here's a handy barrel twist chart for quick reference...
http://www.thebuckskinner.com/barrel_chart.html
On here it says that the White Mountain has a 1:28 twist. Have you considered that the barrel on the rifle may not be the original?
Did you buy it new or used?
#16
Thread Starter
Fork Horn
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
From: Kitchener Ontario
The dealer told me it had a fast twist too. I guess he didn't bother to check it either. I currently have an email in to the folks at T/C to confirm it butI believe that it is 1:48 as I checked again this morning using UncleNorby's more precise method. That being the case I am curious. As a newby to the sport what I am hearing is that a slow twist is more conducive to prb accuracy whereas a fast twist favors the conicals & sabots. If that is correct then where does 1:48 fit into the picture. Is it middle of the road as in jack of all trades / master of none? I think I see a fair bit of "homework" on the horizon.
#17
The 1-48 twist is a "do all twist." Some claim they do all, but none of them very good. That is far from the truth. Normally they are excellent roundball shooters, and very good conical shooters as well. Some are even shooting sabots with some exceptional accuracy from them. The biggest thing is you have to try different things and play with powder charges, etc. But once you find what the rifle likes, they are good shooters.
My 1-48 twist when shooting roundball normally tune in around 80-90 grains of powder with a .490 ball and a .018 patch. When I shoot conicals I find a bit lighter charge of 70-80 grains gets better results. Also the addition of a bore button or wonder wad seems to help in some cases. There are some projectiles you will discover that your rifle just will not shoot, no matter what you do. All you can do is remember that and not load those again. And never underestimate the power of a roundball. They make an excellent medium to short range projectile for large game. Place that ball in the right spot and you have made a 1/2 in hole through vital organs. It don't take a doctor to know what that means...
My 1-48 twist when shooting roundball normally tune in around 80-90 grains of powder with a .490 ball and a .018 patch. When I shoot conicals I find a bit lighter charge of 70-80 grains gets better results. Also the addition of a bore button or wonder wad seems to help in some cases. There are some projectiles you will discover that your rifle just will not shoot, no matter what you do. All you can do is remember that and not load those again. And never underestimate the power of a roundball. They make an excellent medium to short range projectile for large game. Place that ball in the right spot and you have made a 1/2 in hole through vital organs. It don't take a doctor to know what that means...
#18
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,445
Likes: 0
I bought one of these guns for my wife years back. It's a lot lighter and shorter than my Renegade. I think it has a 1:48 twist. It shoots 370 gr maxiballs over 90 gr Pyrodex RS very well. I put a peep sight on it and 2" at 50 yds is the average. The only other bullet I shot out of it were Lyman REALs, and they shot acceptably with a little less recoil. Never shot a round ball or sabot.
If the Renegade were out of commission during the season for some reason, I'd grab that gun and hit the woods without hesitation.
If the Renegade were out of commission during the season for some reason, I'd grab that gun and hit the woods without hesitation.
#19
Thread Starter
Fork Horn
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
From: Kitchener Ontario
Thanks UncleNorby. If It ever gets warm or just quits snowing every weekend I would like to have a long getting acquainted session with my new toy. I tried it out 3 weeks ago but it was so cold that after 3 shots my fingers wouldn't cooperate anymore. I may just have to go to the local indoor range and stink the place up a bit.


