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I have a 40mm on the ML, I am going to let him use.

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corey012778, I would use what ever is expedant. If he is interested enough that he starts looking at getting his own stuff then a check to see what the best answer might be would be a good idea, Lee

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I may calling after I get done with what I gotta do, and take him to my fav. gun shop and let him shoulder some. I let him shot my new englander, he may only shot 4 but look like he had some fun. he has 2 bp pistols.

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I like both Nosler Parts and Barnes for hunting, however for paper punching there are to rich for my blood with how much i shoot. I'd start with a more reasonable plinking load, like Hornady, Speers, etc. Due to price and availability I use Hornady XTP's for shooting, seem to work good in most rifles once you find the sweet spot for charge and proper sabot fit(in some cases). BTW they also have worked well on game IME. I have used the 250's to harvest whitetail and mulies. I have also used the 300gr xtp to harvest whitetails, balck bear and moose. I have never had a failure and never shot any of these animals more then once. WhileI do prefer to use a more robust bullet such as barnes or Noslerfor hunting. Bullet construction only helps when you put it in the right place to begin with, no such thing as a "fail proof" bullet that makes up for poor placement;). Getting your buddy shooting tobuild familarity and confidence first and foremost, then worry about hunting. Just my 2 pennies worth.

Cudo'sto you for taking the time and effort to bring him to the sport.Passing on the tradition is a rewarding experience.

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Hmmm, don't know what happened to my post from last night but hey, could be the fault of the coors brewing company, hehehe. Anyway, I would have to recommend the dead center bullet, probably a 220 grain with 80 grains or so of ff 777. With such a reasonable shooting distance I have no doubtit would perform flawlessly. I've shot this bullet from probably 10 yds out to 50 yds or so and the expansion and weight retention has always been superb. I have had terrible luck with the jacketed bullets (although I know many people love them). I simply can not rely on anything jacketed when it comes to muzzleloading. Ok, crucify me now!!!!

Anyway, If you are serious, let me know. I can probably send you a few but they aren't cheap. So, just let me know. I have no connections at all to the company so these bullets still cost me right at a dollar each. I know this sounds like a lot, but after losing 3-4 deer with other bullets, these things are cheap when it comes to my piece of mind while using my muzzleloader.

Take care and congratulations on taking the initiative on taking others hunting. See ya, Greg

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damn that coors brewing company. that is why I drink JD or say hi to jim;)

no thank greg. I got enough to work with right now.

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No problem. Thanks for your honesty. If you change your mind, let me know. These bullets re-energized my muzzleloader hunting. If they shoot well out of your gun they are the bomb. Keep me posted. Good luck, Greg

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Greg, what bullets didn't perform for you? Add any more info to help fill in the blanks as well. I haven't lost any deer with a ML, though have seen where the results weren't what I expected, mostly due to high or lowvelocity impacts. It sounds like your ranges are 50 or under so it be interesting to know what bullet/loads didn't do the trick where the DC's have.

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Skeeter, I actually had 2 bullets that didn't perform for me. One was the 300 grain Hornady XTP with 90 grains of Pyrodex RS, the other was a jacketed hollow point remington bullet that I picked up at walmart probably 5-6 years ago. It was a 303 grain bullet that i also shot with 90 grains pyrodex RS. Both shot incredibly well on paper but from what I've picked up from some others they don't always expand the way they should. Anyway, I know others love them and I'm glad they work for them. But, I just didn't have any luck with the way they performed on deer. Hope this helps. Take care, Greg