Sabot for 300 gr. XTP
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ORIGINAL: cayugad
Try the Harvester Crushed Rib sabots. Be sure to match up the right sabot for the diameter of bullet you are shooting.
Try the Harvester Crushed Rib sabots. Be sure to match up the right sabot for the diameter of bullet you are shooting.
If you are shooting the .45cal bullet you will shoot the black sabot
or you can try the Knight E-Z Load sabot if you are shooting the .45cal size.
Ron
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ORIGINAL: jbar174
I was trying out my new Triumph and had a hard time loading the 300gr.XTP's with supplied sabot. Any recommendations for a different sabot......
I was trying out my new Triumph and had a hard time loading the 300gr.XTP's with supplied sabot. Any recommendations for a different sabot......
and MMP 3Petal Ez: http://www.mmpsabots.com/
Chap Gleason
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I switched to the black Crushed Rib Sabots for the 250 and 300gr Barnes Expanders I shoot. The suppiled sabots where a little tough to get down. The Crushed Ribs are easier but still has some resistance which is what you want. I also buy extra Crushed Rib Sabots for the 250 and 300gr XTP's I buy in bulk. They work great for the XTP's too.
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jbar174
If you bought a package deal of Hornady XTP's and sabots, you more than likely got the MMP HPH-12 sabot. This is a thicker sabot supplied with the Hornady bullets. Even if you picked up a package of Hornady sabots you would still have gotten the HPH-12. Hornady is now packaging a red "low drag" sabot that is really a MMP HPH-3p-ez for easier loading.
Since you are shooting a TC Triumph - i would suggest you try MMP HPH-24's or regular Harvesters first if they are still to tight then try move down to the HPH-3p-Ez which is slightly thinner than the 24. As a last resort then go to the Harvester 'crush rib' - that is the thinnest sabot out there at the present time.
You just do not want to thin of a sabot that would lead to pressure loss. It should be snug going down but not so loose you can easily with a couple of fingers push it down the barrel.
One final thing it will be very difficult to tell the difference between the HPH-12 & HPH-24, they are bot both black and constructed the same way. So when somebody says black sabot - there still is information you need.
If you bought a package deal of Hornady XTP's and sabots, you more than likely got the MMP HPH-12 sabot. This is a thicker sabot supplied with the Hornady bullets. Even if you picked up a package of Hornady sabots you would still have gotten the HPH-12. Hornady is now packaging a red "low drag" sabot that is really a MMP HPH-3p-ez for easier loading.
Since you are shooting a TC Triumph - i would suggest you try MMP HPH-24's or regular Harvesters first if they are still to tight then try move down to the HPH-3p-Ez which is slightly thinner than the 24. As a last resort then go to the Harvester 'crush rib' - that is the thinnest sabot out there at the present time.
You just do not want to thin of a sabot that would lead to pressure loss. It should be snug going down but not so loose you can easily with a couple of fingers push it down the barrel.
One final thing it will be very difficult to tell the difference between the HPH-12 & HPH-24, they are bot both black and constructed the same way. So when somebody says black sabot - there still is information you need.
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Most likelymmp sabot is the MMP HPH12's or MMP short/regwith a loaded diameter of .507" -.508". So if to tight for your bore the options with MMP(my preference when it comes to sabots) are as follows:
HPH24 loaded diameter: .505" - 506"
3P -EZ loaded diameter:.502" - .504"
I have a savage with a tad tighter bore and MMPHPH24's make the difference for me. I have not tried the 3p-EZ's but the Harvester CrushedRibs proved toomuchand according to my mic they would be similar to that of the 3p-EZ in loaded diameter. FWIW a couple buddies with tight TC's also found relief in the HPH24's vs 12's.
In the case of the XTPwith use inthe mag sabots, I have clipped them down (using a toenail clipper) basically creating a short/reg sabot.This can prevent the jag from gripping the sabot and ease loading as well. I have not found any accuracy returns from doing itnor have I seen negative effectson performance. IME it is strictly a loading effort fix and a last resort. In my savage it basically allowed me touse HPH 12's for testing, though being it can bepretty cold it wasn't ideal for my hunting applications so I found a better fitting sabot.
Good luck
HPH24 loaded diameter: .505" - 506"
3P -EZ loaded diameter:.502" - .504"
I have a savage with a tad tighter bore and MMPHPH24's make the difference for me. I have not tried the 3p-EZ's but the Harvester CrushedRibs proved toomuchand according to my mic they would be similar to that of the 3p-EZ in loaded diameter. FWIW a couple buddies with tight TC's also found relief in the HPH24's vs 12's.
In the case of the XTPwith use inthe mag sabots, I have clipped them down (using a toenail clipper) basically creating a short/reg sabot.This can prevent the jag from gripping the sabot and ease loading as well. I have not found any accuracy returns from doing itnor have I seen negative effectson performance. IME it is strictly a loading effort fix and a last resort. In my savage it basically allowed me touse HPH 12's for testing, though being it can bepretty cold it wasn't ideal for my hunting applications so I found a better fitting sabot.
Good luck


