eatsleephunt

Okay, let me ask this then. Having purchase the Knight Disc Ext., which of these saboted rounds would you pick. It seems to me that the ballistic tipped bullets might just perform better?

Indiana SmokePole

mY 1ST cHOISE WOULD BE THE 290GR BARNS SPITFIRE TMZ WITH 110 - 120GR OF 2FG LOOSE 777 & A WIN. 777 PRIMER

SENT YOU A PM .

RON

hossdaniels

The barnes 290g tmz is another excellent choice. The barnes I was refering to are not available prepackaged with sabots. The primary purpose of these bullets is for use in handloading for the 45/70 single shot rifles, they are not marketed to ML'ers. They are hands down the most accurate bullets I've found, and the velocities they are designed for fall right in where you are trying to get. The sabots are (and always should be IMO) purchased seperatly, so you can try different ones and see which sabot your bullet/rifle likes(and its alot cheaper). BTW very nice choice of rifles, you should have a 250-275yd setup in short order.

hossdaniels

Also, the 777 and cleanbore primers are nice and clean, but they can leave up to40 fps(average around 25fps)off your velocity. A hotter 209 primer can give a small, but noticable increase in your velocity. Federal 209a primers are the hottest widely available primer, but they are not nearly as clean as the primers designed for bp subs. The orange mmp's are sabots for .458" bullets in a .50 bore. The black crush rib sabots are designed to be a easy loading sabot with .452" bullets, but work very well in my rifle with .458" bullets

http://www.mmpsabots.com/ for orange mmp sabots( price is delivered)
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072H15045BR for black crush rib sabots(good price too)

hossdaniels

I just ran the 300g barnes original ss vs. the 250g sst on computer

300g barnes @ 2000 fps 3" high at 100 yds
200 yds -4" 1525 ft/lbs
300 yds -26" 1150 ft/lbs

250g sst @ 2100 fps 3" high at 100 yds
200 yds -4" 1679 ft/lbs
300 yds -28.5"784 ft/lbs

So, you dont have to give up anything with a heavier bullet!
Rule #1 of shooting keep your finger off the damn trigger
#2 dont trust computer run shooting data
In my experience it has been pretty darn close!

Underclocked

Go to http://mmpsabots.com/ and take a look at their sabot selection. Some are for .40 caliber bullets in .45 rifles, some .40 in .50 rifles, and so on. The orange colored sabot near the page bottom is for .457 or .458 bullets in .50 cal rifles.

Harvester sabots at http://www.harvesterbullets.com/sabots.htm. MMP and Harvester are the major suppliers but there are a few others.

And I don't really like any of them.

spaniel

200SW and 110gr 777, 2100fps. I tested them all, this was the flattest shooting combination in my gun. If you can push the 300gr accurately, go for it.

frontier gander

kleanbore primers are actually dirty as hell. I would always get slight hangfires when using these, crud build up inside my bolt was horrible. They are a very very dirty primer.
CCI, Federal or the winchester 777 have always worked best for me.

gleason.chapman

Orange Sabots are available here: http://www.mmpsabots.com/

Here is the sabot and what bullet diameters they fit:






Note that the orange sabot will fit .457 and .458 diameter bullets. Most ML 50 cal bullets are .452, the Orange sabots are thinner since the .458 bullet is .006" bigger. Chap Gleason

gleason.chapman

Correct, the shroud to the bullet in the rifle. Available here:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=00072H15045BR

The crushed rib have grooves in the side of the sabot, allowing the surface are of the outside of the sabot to squeeze in better on a tighter bore. They shoot very accurate for me in my Knight Disc (Origonal Disc) and my TC Omega using 300g Nosler Partition HG, this one:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0011545350

Here is what the Crushed rib look like. Chap Gleason