RE: 50 cal knockdown power
 

Chap

I would really be careful using RW as a source of anything... He is a paid mouth which has been shown many times over and over. He was even Bannedfrom Modern Muzzleloaders.

http://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/phpBB/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4

RE: 50 cal knockdown power
 

i agree, hes now pretty much saying this new 209 powder is the best and that pellets stink and theres no need for 150grain mag loads.

RE: 50 cal knockdown power
 

Yes, I am aware that he is paid, as is several others, however some info that he has on his web site is useful and informative (I learned a LOT from his Savage site). I basically believe that when you get independent confirmation on a strategy, part or position, that that is the best policy. RW web site is just 1 of the 5 sources I was talking about. I will change it to Churck Hawks since he publishes there, but there are others. Thanks Chap

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We know, your the resident PB believer--in spite of all the evidence otherwise! Ihave 3 packages left of 15---295g copper HP, I am going to shoot them in my new 21"Green Mountain barrel at 60g of Goex along with Gold Dots and a few others--just at targets, never at an animal. Chap

RE: 50 cal knockdown power
 

Barnes, Nosler partitions, or Hornady XTPs.

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Chap, Load up 80 grains powder with those 295's sight in, and then take the left overs and save them for hunting season. I guarantee you'd have a successful hunt and you wouldn't have to be tracking your deer for a 100 yards.

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I have to disagree that all deer hit in the boiler room go down right away. About five years ago I shot a buck that ran over 300 yds. I shot him with a 44 mag hand gun using ahot loaded Hornady 300gr XTP. There was a complete pass through and both lungs looked like goo. He left a spurting blood trail,
out both sides, and jumped a fence and ran across at least 300 yds of open field and rolled into a ball just out of thefield. Most go right down, but not all. If there hadn't been some light snow on the ground he would have been very hard to find.

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from what we've been seeing on here lately. The XTP is becoming the Powerbelt of Sabots.

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They fragment, as the pictures of Sabotloader showed with his shots into sand at the "rock pile", not all the time, but enough that they would cause concern. Now the jacket is not alot of weight, but the fact that energy is used shedding the jacket instead of penetrating is the big deal in my opinion. The Gold Dots are better because they are bonded to the jacket and about the same price.
Chap

RE: 50 cal knockdown power
 

A 300 gr Shockwave Bonded type bullet with 90 grains loose 777 will do it for sure.