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I was at Wal-Mart last night and they have Winchester Triple Seven primers for 2.00 and Remington Cleanbore primers for 2.50. I called my dad and he wanted the remington, but I picked up the winchester because I shoot 777. I have been shooting the CCI shotgun primers with good results. So which is better, the Winchester 777, the remington cleanbore, or the CCI? Also got me another loading tip for 1.00. They were out of bullets only one pack of powerbelt platinums left on the shelf, and no more powder. But they had a pile of 209 primers.

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I have used both primers and to tell you the truth I cannot tell any difference. As a matter of fact I cannot tell the diff between them and the reg 209 primer. Having said that I use the Win T7. Why I don't know. Some think they are better and they may be correct while some think it is a marketing tool to increase profits.

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I use the 777 primers as well. I started with the kleenbores and they would get to the point I had to pick them out of the breech. I have used the CCI but my optima groups better with the 777.

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If your shooting BP or Sub that is true, however if your shooting smokeless the 777 AND the Kleenbore do not have enough flame to start the smokeless powder. Basically I believe any 209 will work on ignition, however some are longer than other making some guns hard to close, or once fire they expand so much that they are difficult to remove. My recommendation is find one that works for you (easy to put in and take out) and use that all the time. Another thing is that some of the primers put out a lot of carbon and fill up breech plugs fast, it happens on my Savage, and you have to clean them after only 10 shot, which is quite a pain. So buy all you can at $2.00 cuase they are like $7, but stay with them if they shoot well in your MLer. Chap

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If my Wal Mart had them on sale like that I would not have worried which were better... I would have bought them out. Both of them will work fine with loose powder. With pellets, I like a little hotter primer like a Winchester W209. The Remington Kleenbore are my favorite for the loose powder shooting. I have never shot the new Winchester Triple Se7en primers.

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I tried the Remington BP primer's. the Winchester BP primer's, and the standard Winchester 209 primer. The "crud ring" was the smallest with the Remington after one shot. It was the smallest, but it was still there. I can feel it with the cleaning jag, and you could feel the difference. The Remington also shot the best for me, but I will admit I spent most of my load developing time with the Remington. Tom.

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cci/777 were my choice. Remington kleanbores were actually dirty sob's and would always expand in my breech plug and got stuck. Hangfire city with them too.

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As mentioned I would also clear the rack at those prices. :D

Not shot the WIN777's as they have been spendy where I have seen them.

As for the Rem Kleenbore's, I've shot several hundred withoutan issue. :)

Tahquamenon

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I prefer the Remington's out of those two. But like someone said, at that price I might have just had to have bought all of them :D

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Ive shot the 777 primers with good results. It reduces my crud ring with t7 but doesnt eliminate it. Never shot the Rem but have a pack to try. I am with the others at that price buyem all!!!!!!!

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Wasnt that the original purpose of them, to get rid of the crud ring left by 777?I never really had a problem with it so had no need to try the primers out.Shot some out of dads CVA the other day though and they came out of the breech a lot harder then my Remingtons doout ofthe same gun.Must depend on the gun more than the primers if everyones had different experiences with the same primers.

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I have had very similar results as far as accuracy is concerned; however the problems that can come up with different guns can change the situation. As an example I can not use either of the ones supposedly made for muzzleloading in my Triumph they will foul the flame passage right past the end of the209 so bad in 10 shots that it has to be cleaned with a drill. Lee

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I found a pack of the Remington Muzzle Loader primers on sale for a couple of bucks so I bought the. I reload my shot shells with CCI's so that is whatI had been useing.
I saw no difference in the performance of my rifle with the Remingtons so I will stick with the CCI's which are far cheaper than the Remingtons unless you find them on sale.
I would have bought the lot also and divided them out to friends If they didn't work for me.

:)Al

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When I started out with my CVA WolfI was useingregular 209A's and after 15-20 shots the back of the breach plug and firing pin area were just covered in black crud. I then tried the Rem Kleenbore primers and now have zero blowback residue and they come out with no problem after firing. I wouldn't hesitate torecomend the Reminton Kleenbore's. I have used them a little with pelletized powder and I had no problems either. IMO I wouldsuggest that you shoot a bunch of each to see which one leavesthe least amount of blowback residue. I have read of guys having trouble with so much blowback residue thatleft unchecked eventuallyinhibited the firing pin from striking the primer. Good luck and havefun shootin!

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I have used both the remington kleenbore and the win.777 primers in my omega with 777 loose powder. Got less crud ring with the 777 primers. Less blowback with the 777 primers. And the spent 777 primers are a lot easier to remove from the breech plug........my experiences.