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RE: Triumph or Krb7
Indiana SmokePole
but if I can load a sabot with just fingrs then it is to small and Most likely not going to shoot at its max Poten. This has been a proven fact by to many shooters including myself on the sabots not conicals the conicals when in a good barrle will useually shoot good but my point is that the QLA system is not a good thing. I am certainly not the best shooter in the world but with these "thumb pressure sabots" 1 1/2 groups at a 100 are the norm for me with the shooting equipment I have. Someone like Lemoyne that is competive bench shooter would easilytighten that up. The only place you need really tight fitting sabots is when shooting "smokeless" because of the progessive burning powders invloved... |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
i love my long range hunter. not sure about the krb7. i'm sure it is great. I just bought my knight a few months ago. I couldn't find any knight dealers here where i live. Well none that carried anything knight other than accessoris, because everyone shoots thompson centers' around here. So i called knight to order one thru them and they gave me the phone number to an ace hardware in wisconsin that is the largest knight dealer in the united states. They by had the best prices on all there knight guns that i could find anywhere. the guy was nice to deal with, it took about 5 min. on the phone and my gun was shipped to me in 3 days. the stock had a blemish in it, so i called knight and they shipped me a new lam. thumbhole stockthat same day. if you end up getting the knight i can give you the number of the hardware or you can just call knight and i'm sure they will tell you the same as the did me. good luck on the decision.
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RE: Triumph or Krb7
For what it's worth, I love my Omega.
It's a tack driver with MMP 3 petal ez sabots and Hornady 300gr .452 xtp's. 90gr t7 Also green crush rib sabot, .430 240gr xtp over same powder charge. Couldn't ask for a more accurate firearm. I tolerate the crud ring |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
i think people not liking theQLA is crazy. i really can't see where having QLA or not having it can change the way i load my triumph at all. the bullet is going down the barrel the same know matter what. i cant figure out how to miss aline a bullet in any ML. WITH OR WITHOUT i just don't see any differents.i DO think TC needs to make all there barrels to the same size,there are some way tighter then others. i also thik most of the crud ring problems with TC guns is due to there disign ,because my triumph gets some crud ring with any thing i shoot in it .
i do know this i have yet to see a KNIGHT that will shoot as good as my triumph or my old cva hunterbolt and i have a good friend that is sponcored by knight and he can't out shoot either on the bench. he has knight ML'S that haven't even seen the market yet. |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
ORIGINAL: MLKeith Has T/C addressed the inability to load a sabot and bullet combination without a sledge hammer on the Triumph? I finally found a combination that can be driven down the barrel of the Omega and with the exception of Powerbelts most sabot bullet combinations are a no-go. The ones that they sent with the rifle could not be loaded and I stuck one twice about 1/3 of the way down the barrel. My KRB on the other hand loads sabot bullet combinations with ease. Just another thing to consider when looking at T/C rifles as the barrels tend to run very tight some like mine, exceptionally tight. You can always get smaller sabots from MMP. |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
ORIGINAL: spaniel ORIGINAL: MLKeith Has T/C addressed the inability to load a sabot and bullet combination without a sledge hammer on the Triumph? I finally found a combination that can be driven down the barrel of the Omega and with the exception of Powerbelts most sabot bullet combinations are a no-go. The ones that they sent with the rifle could not be loaded and I stuck one twice about 1/3 of the way down the barrel. My KRB on the other hand loads sabot bullet combinations with ease. Just another thing to consider when looking at T/C rifles as the barrels tend to run very tight some like mine, exceptionally tight. You can always get smaller sabots from MMP. Check Sabotloaders second post on page three and you can see what I was dealing with since I got one of the first stainless Omegas built. It has a .499-.500 barrel after polishing and will load a sabot when absolutely clean. I have not tried all the later versions although I have some three petal ones and some crush rib to try at some time in the future. I just carry a powerbelt for any second shots as they can be loaded when there is some fouling and that is from Black Mag'3 powder which leaves very little. Personally I like the KRB a lot better with less fooling around finding something that works. Loading primers with a scope mounted is a little more trouble if I find anything not to like about it. I also shoot heavy bullets as I elk hunt so conical possiblility is a plus also. |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
ORIGINAL: Indiana SmokePole Lemoyne But you have to shoot farther than 25 or 30 yds . I have 3 guns with the QLA system and they are or I thoght they was Good shooters until I bought A Knight Disc Extreme XT . And this gun shoots not only saboted bullets great @ 100 yds it will also shoot Conicals great also That is why I now have 5 no 6 KNIGHTS now and gave my TC Omaga to my son to tryand get to shoot good . If you look through the threds what is the major complaint TC stocks cracken, can't get good groups no matter what they shoot , QLA not lined up correctly. And I really don't remember ever seeing were a Knight stock has busted or that anyone can't find a good load for any of them AND I don't see any complaints on the QLA not beeing right O O O thats right they don't have one because they know that the QLA is crap and they don't want to get a bad rep. And TC has had so many complaints about their stocks and the QLA LOOKS like they would fix it but they won't WHY . I have a TC renagade that I wouldn't take any thing for Why because it is a great shooter thats when TC made great guns WHITH OUT THE QLA SYSTEM. Knight rifle are heavyer WHY because they have a good barrle on them by GMB , A good steel barrle is going to weigh more than a cheeper steel barrle, and look at alot of the sidelock shooters they are replacing there barrles with the GMB WHY because they are a good barrle and they shoot great also. SO if any one needs to open there EYES it may be you. My range has no 25yd set up it starts at 50 yds and I only use that for sighting in. I do not feel this kind of comment is appropriate here. Most of the people here do not knock brand names or the other people here. Lee |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
MLKeith
Personally I like the KRB a lot better with less fooling around finding something that works. Sidenote... did you see my post on that elk I shot this year. This is the second elk with a ML for me (I have shot plenty prior but with a 300 Win Mag and a Nosler 200 grain Partition) and both of these ML elkwere good clean harvests. Since I have read several of your posts I have been worried that maybe I should also be shooting big conicals at elk, I like you hunt by myseld most often and at my age I have no wish to track for any distance at all. but so far the .458's are working. |
RE: Triumph or Krb7
I was worried when i asked this question it would turn into a knight vs TC. I know both guns are good guns. I just want some feedback on both. I know each is gonna have it drawbacks, but i wanted to hear first hand from owners. It would be nice if the guns shops were like shoe stores and go in and say let me try that one, and take it out back and shoot it a few times, and clean it and see what its all about.
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RE: Triumph or Krb7
Nothing drives me nuts, that trip was completed long ago. :D
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