what muzzleloader to buy
12-19-2007 | 12:22 PM
#11
Thread Starter
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,867
Likes: 0
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
no high power rifle here ml shotgun pistol bow or pistol cal riflel
i have abow and a smoothbore shotgun
i have abow and a smoothbore shotgun
ORIGINAL: sabotloader
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike
12-19-2007 | 12:27 PM
#12
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,193
Likes: 0
From: Wisconsin
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
ORIGINAL: steelhead777
cayugad,what is that NEF sidekick like?i see cabelas has them for $179 wood stock black barrel would you go with a NEF over a CVA? i was looking to get a second gun to shoot with my apexsince i gave my other one to my brother.
cayugad,what is that NEF sidekick like?i see cabelas has them for $179 wood stock black barrel would you go with a NEF over a CVA? i was looking to get a second gun to shoot with my apexsince i gave my other one to my brother.
12-19-2007 | 01:28 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,246
Likes: 0
From:
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
ORIGINAL: sabotloader
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike
Scopes are great. I think if I was buying a new gun it would be a Triumph, which is really an upgraded Omega. Chap Gleason
12-19-2007 | 01:45 PM
#18
Thread Starter
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,867
Likes: 0
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
ya i checked walmart the small one in town and the big one the enxt town up the one in town and a optima cvs a kodake and another a wolf i think and the big walmart and a tradtional. and a starter kit a wolf i think there slim picken right now
ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman
Right now is the clearance sales at Wal-Mart and various places. Chap
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656
whats the best time of year to find a ml on sale
whats the best time of year to find a ml on sale
12-19-2007 | 01:54 PM
#19
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From:
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
THe prohunter has a speed breech....but its not the 'NO TOOL' needed to remove the breech plug breech that the Triumph has. The difference from the prohunter breech to the gen1 encore is you only have to rotate the breach 90degree to remove the breech, where as the first gen encores you have to completely screw the breech out to remove. I spoke with T/C and they are going to have a Encore model in 08 that will have a breech that will not require a tool to remove it.
ORIGINAL: rdpettit
Isn't that what the Encore Pro Hunter model has--the speed breech?
Isn't that what the Encore Pro Hunter model has--the speed breech?
ORIGINAL: barry1me
I bought the Triumph and I love it, easy to clean, simple, fairly reasonably priced, and great shooting. I started a trend around my house, 4 people have bought one after seeing how easy mine is to use. If you get an Encore wait till next year when they come out with the speed breech XT like the Triumph....no more tools to pull the breech plug out.
I bought the Triumph and I love it, easy to clean, simple, fairly reasonably priced, and great shooting. I started a trend around my house, 4 people have bought one after seeing how easy mine is to use. If you get an Encore wait till next year when they come out with the speed breech XT like the Triumph....no more tools to pull the breech plug out.
12-19-2007 | 01:59 PM
#20
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From:
RE: what muzzleloader to buy
I agree with about everything here except the scopes. I have a Elite 3200 firefly 3x9x40 on my Knight MK-85, and a Elite 3200 3x9x40 on my Browning Abolt 12 guage. Though they are a great scope for the money. I hands down think the Nikon Omega 3x9x40 is a much more quality scope then the Elite 3200. Better under low light conditions, and eye relief is 5.0" vs. 3.3". Im sold on Nikons now, I will be putting one on my browning.
Im also a big fan of leupold rings and bases. I have no need for removable mounts so I will stick with fixed rings.
Im also a big fan of leupold rings and bases. I have no need for removable mounts so I will stick with fixed rings.
ORIGINAL: sabotloader
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike
bigtim6656
Just trying to think of the best I might go with the experiance that I have so + some depends on the rules in your state or where you might hunt... those you will need to verify...
Construction
#1. Stainless Steel
Rifles
#2. A Remington 700 ML (a lot of people are going to cringe at that one - but no matter they are not made any longer)
#3. Omega - & if you have never used a thumbhole stock like myself go try you might be surprised as I was...
a) An Omega with a synthetic stock either thumbhole or standard your choice.. ( that will also cause a few cringes... the laminate stock is a bit bulky for me, heavier, and tends to be slick when wet)
#4 Probabably the next choice for me would be a Triumph or a Knight Rolling Block (KRB) and I would probably go with the Triumph again because of weight.
#5 If you like a short one then the Omega X7
Scopes...
#1 Bushnell Elite 3200 with ballistic reticule (3x9x40)
#2 Nikon Pro-Staff
#3 Leupold Rifleman
all with warne Quick Detachable bases although all of mine are solid mounts
Projectiles...
#1 Nosler Partitions...
.451/260 grain for whitetail/muley's
.451/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
.458/300 grain for elk/bear/boar
#2 Barnes bullets
#3 Speer Gold Dots
.452/250 grain for deer
.452/300 grain for elk
Sabots... this oneis a little difficult becauseit really depends on what rifle you purchase as to whichsabot will fit best....
But I tend to use more MMP HPH-24 .451-.452/50 Black sabots than anything else.
Hope some of this information and the information above and what will come below helps... It certainly can and will get confusing - like asking ford or chev...
mike