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mikepsu54 12-17-2007 10:32 PM

Peep Sites
 
I am thinking about using a peep sight for my firestorm. Will this increase my accuracy, I am terrible with the fiber optic V sights. Has anyone used a peep sight on their muzzleloader. I shoot good at the range you continually have to think of how much of the sight should i take? HElp

Semisane 12-17-2007 11:25 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
I'm a firm believer in aperture sights - I just can't see a v-notch or u-notch or buckhorn rear sight. Even the fiber optic ones give me fits.

I recently built my own aperture sight for a .58 Zouave in such a way that I can re-install the original rear sight any time I want. Take a look at http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2431005&mpage=1&key=&#243103 1

After using this homemade sight, I won't even consider going back to a notch type rear sight. I have a new .54 Great Plains flint lock that I haven't shot yet. I'm in the process of modifying the adjustable factory rear sight to something like the one I made for the Zouave (however, it will be much sleeker and will take advantage of the adjustable feature of the factory sight). The first range session will be with a peep.

dmurphy317 12-18-2007 02:01 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 
I have a peep on my Lyman GPH and it does help in the accuracy dept. I wear bi-focals and have a hard time seeing the regular open sights. With the peep on the rear and a hooded front site I can shoot about as well as I can with a scope. In fact the best 3 shot group I have ever shot with any gun was with that gun, .28" at 75 yards. Depending on where I hunt this next year I may consider putting a peep on my inline at some point.

gleason.chapman 12-18-2007 06:25 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 

ORIGINAL: mikepsu54

I am thinking about using a peep sight for my firestorm. Will this increase my accuracy, I am terrible with the fiber optic V sights. Has anyone used a peep sight on their muzzleloader. I shoot good at the range you continually have to think of how much of the sight should i take? HElp
I know what ya mean on the fiber optic V sights, the back sight you see double. I corrected tha by buying this sight from RMC Sports. Chap Gleason



wabi 12-18-2007 06:30 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 
Aperture "peep" sights are very good, but it takes some getting used to if you're not familiar with them. Most people who have used front/rear open sights have a tendancy to want to see the aperture and center the front sight in it - WRONG! Simply look through the aperture and concentrate on the front sight and targey only. Forget the rear sight and you will shoot very accurately - try to align the front sight in the "hole" your looking through and you will have accuracy problems!

UncleNorby 12-18-2007 10:33 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 
I use one on my T/C Renegade. It's T/C's peep that they sell for the gun, but I bored out the aperture so it's easier to use in low light. Peeps are superior sights for relatively close range shots at moving targets in the woods.

Yes, just focus on the front sight. Put your bead where you want a hole made and squeeze.

lemoyne 12-18-2007 03:19 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
In answer to the question will it increase my accuracy. We can not know how wel you shootbut it has the potential to increase accuracy noticably. Thats why every benchrest shooter in a class that allows iron sights only will be using one. Lee

mikepsu54 12-18-2007 03:50 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
Can you adjust them like normal open sight like up and down left and right, or dont they need to be adjusted.

mikepsu54 12-18-2007 03:54 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
SEMISANE..I commend you that looks pretty slick and good..THe price is also the nicest thing...But can you adjust them or dont you need too. I have 50 dollars for cabelas and i was thinking about buying one. Their around 50 bucks. But i really like your design because you can change peep size. I dont mind spending the money if i have too i just dont want to waste it if i can make it for 5 bucks and it will have the same effect. I think the one at cabelas adjust? HELP???

HEAD0001 12-18-2007 03:57 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
IMO it will dramatically increase your accuracy. I am not sure how people even shoot the fiber optic sights?? Too bright for me. Peep sights are fully adjustable. Also pay close attention to your front sight. I prefer a small white bead. You will find out that all you need to do is focus on the front sight and the target, your eye will line up the rear aperature almost automatically. Get the larger "Hunter's peep" rear aperture for hunting. Tom.





Semisane 12-18-2007 07:42 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
Hey Mikepsu. The only adjustment options you have with my LOL Sight are (1) changing the front sight height to move the point of impact up or down, and (2) making an extra rear sight "nut" with the mounting hole drilled a little off center to adjust windage. That's OK for my purposes with the Zouave. I'll be shooting only patched round balls with one load of powder (still working on the most accurate load). Once I decide what load I'll be shooting I'll fix the sight to match that loadfor dead on at 100 yards,and stick with the selected load. One option for windage would be to weld or solder the "nut" to a dovetail base that could be drifted right or left.

I have a newGreat Plains .54 flintlock that I haven't even shot yet (Merry Christmas To Me). I'm modifying the adjustable rear sight in somewhat the same way as the Zouave sight, but it will be a lot more streamlined and will be able to use the elevation adjustment feature of the factory sight. I'm replacing the sight notch part of the factory sightwith a 3/8" modified nut that will take three different apertures. I'll post results when I've got it done, and have had a chance to try it out. That won't likely be until after hunting season (ends 28 Jan 08).

The big difference between my set-up and a true aperture sight is that mine is located forward on the barrel where a regular iron sight would be, whereas a true aperture sight is typically mounted on the tang close to the eye. I'm sure mine loses something with respect to accuracy potential. But, for a muzzle loader, I like its looks.

Try this to see if you like it. Take a 1/2" by 3" piece of cardboard and punch a 1/4" hole near one end. Bend in into an "L" and tape it to your barrel near the iron sight so that the hole is just above the sight. Shoulder the gun andtake a sight picture through it. If your eyes are like mine, you will be able to see the front sight much better, and will automatically center the top of the front sight in the hole. Take it outside at dusk and take a sight picture on something fifty yards away - then rip it off and do the same with your regular sight. You'll be surprised at the difference.

mikepsu54 12-19-2007 10:25 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 
the one at cabelas make you drill and tap a hole. is this easy. I also dont want to put a hole in my gun if i dont like it. DO you think i could shoot it with the one screw in and it still be accurate. I would have to be very careful i guwss

bronko22000 12-19-2007 10:46 AM

RE: Peep Sites
 
I too have some trouble with my iron sights on my sidelocks but I came up with a solution that really helps and is cheap and use it on all mine except the one with the fiber optic sights.
What I did was lightly file the front brass bead and applied a couple of light coats of my wife's white finger nail polish. On the rear sight, I degreased it and masked a narrow line (about 1/32") at the back of the sight in the center of the U notch and put the polish on.
I simply set the bead on top of that line. Works great in low light too.

Old/New 12-19-2007 05:52 PM

RE: Peep Sites
 
Wabi is correct. Look thru the rear aperture and put the front bead on the target and press the trigger. Much more accurate because one can not line up two objects at once no less three.

I have a Lyman Peep on my Lyman Deerstalker and it is plenty accurate and easy to use.


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